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Ripcord22A

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Maybe because as someone that's still active the simple act of kneeling during the anthem isn't what's offensive(for centuries people kneeled to show respect), it's the fact that they are using that as the moment to "bring awareness" as if they are the ones being oppressed. I'm almost positive that if kaeprnick had been the starter and they were winning there is no way he woulda started this





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GJB

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There's nothing wrong with kneeling. People kneel when they pray. People kneel when they receive honors (such as a knighthood). The issue isn't the kneeling. The issue is that during the playing of our national anthem, it is longstanding tradition to stand and place your hands over your heart as a sign of respect to our flag, our nation, and most importantly for those who sacrificed their lives in service to this great nation. The only reason for kneeling is to supposedly "protest" the alleged injustice that some perceive. I watch sports to be entertained by superb athletes at the peak of their sport's skill. I don't watch to be lectured by multi million dollar athletes who feel the need to lecture me about racial injustice. Just my opinion. I mean no disrespect to any of my brothers who may feel differently. It's a complicated issue.

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Thomas Stright

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There's nothing wrong with kneeling. People kneel when they pray. People kneel when they receive honors (such as a knighthood). The issue isn't the kneeling. The issue is that during the playing of our national anthem, it is longstanding tradition to stand and place your hands over your heart as a sign of respect to our flag, our nation, and most importantly for those who sacrificed their lives in service to this great nation. The only reason for kneeling is to supposedly "protest" the alleged injustice that some perceive. I watch sports to be entertained by superb athletes at the peak of their sport's skill. I don't watch to be lectured by multi million dollar athletes who feel the need to lecture me about racial injustice. Just my opinion. I mean no disrespect to any of my brothers who may feel differently. It's a complicated issue.


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Phil P

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Y'all want to talk about Elvis being the desk clerk at the heartbreak hotel, my Texans almost pulled it of against those CHOWDS.
 

LK600

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Sadly, I'm done with the Steelers, and the NFL in total. This kneeling business, or not coming out for the pledge was kind of the last straw. Watching multi-millionaires disrespect the flag to make a "point" is one to many. They should play the damn game and if they want to make an impact, grab a picket sign and walk a street... I'll join them. Anyway, that's it for me. Besides... it's really silly for me to waste so much time on a "game", when I could be out side building my BBQ!
 

GJB

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Sadly, I'm done with the Steelers, and the NFL in total. This kneeling business, or not coming out for the pledge was kind of the last straw. Watching multi-millionaires disrespect the flag to make a "point" is one to many. They should play the damn game and if they want to make an impact, grab a picket sign and walk a street... I'll join them. Anyway, that's it for me. Besides... it's really silly for me to waste so much time on a "game", when I could be out side building my BBQ!
I agree 101%. I hope more people do the same so the NFL feels the impact more severely.

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Brother JC

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You want disrespect? Look in the stands. There are far more people playing grabass up there than there are protesters on the field. And those are the same people whining the loudest.
 
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GJB

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You want disrespect? Look in the stands. There are far more people playing grabass up there than there are protesters on the field. And those are the same people whining the loudest.
You are absolutely right, and that is a disgrace and poor reflection on our society as well. I know I'm old fashioned, but in my opinion every man, woman, and child in that stadium should be on their feet with their hand across their hearts the moment the national anthem begins to play. That is how I was raised to show respect for my nation, my freedoms, and those who fought and died to provide me with said freedoms.

Just because a few fans act boorish and have no respect is no excuse for public figures to behave the same. The argument is not really relevant.



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Ripcord22A

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The argument is not really

It's absolutely relevant. Everyone wants to wine and cry but yet I am 1000%positive not one single person gets off the couch at home when watching the game and stands and places there hand on their heart......look I think these guys are dumb and as Jason Whitlock of Fox Sports said "these guys are out ahead of their skis" us getting all wrapped around the axel and not watching the game any more is silly. I love watching football and regardless of what "some" of the players do I'll keep watching it......
 

otherstar

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It's absolutely relevant. Everyone wants to wine and cry but yet I am 1000%positive not one single person gets off the couch at home when watching the game and stands and places there hand on their heart......look I think these guys are dumb and as Jason Whitlock of Fox Sports said "these guys are out ahead of their skis" us getting all wrapped around the axel and not watching the game any more is silly. I love watching football and regardless of what "some" of the players do I'll keep watching it......

Same here. In the grand scheme of things, it's just not that important.
 

GJB

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It's absolutely relevant. Everyone wants to wine and cry but yet I am 1000%positive not one single person gets off the couch at home when watching the game and stands and places there hand on their heart......look I think these guys are dumb and as Jason Whitlock of Fox Sports said "these guys are out ahead of their skis" us getting all wrapped around the axel and not watching the game any more is silly. I love watching footbalI and regardless of what "some" of the players do I'll keep watching it......

That is your right to have an opinion, but I still disagree. The fact that you don't share my sentiments does not make my position "silly". I don't appreciate it when the league denies the Dallas Cowboy's request to honor their fallen police officers by wearing a small sticker on their helmets, but wholeheartedly supports the disrespect of our flag and anthem. If you don't agree, by all means keep watching football. There's really nothing I can do to change how fans across the nation behave (though I wish there was sometimes), so there's really no relevance in getting them involved. I can, however; choose not to buy any merchandise, attend any more games, or provide any more revenue to an organization that already gets plenty of taxpayer dollars. That is MY right of free speech and my right as a consumer. It's getting to the point where we as a nation just overlook the constant issues bombarded upon us as "silly" and just go about our day. I choose to put my money where my mouth is. If you want to continue watching football, then I applaud you for it. I have no hard feelings and I will try not to lose any sleep over it, Brother. As Brother Otherstar stated: in the grand scheme of things, it's just not that important.
 

Ripcord22A

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That is your right to have an opinion, but I still disagree. The fact that you don't share my sentiments does not make my position "silly". I don't appreciate it when the league denies the Dallas Cowboy's request to honor their fallen police officers by wearing a small sticker on their helmets, but wholeheartedly supports the disrespect of our flag and anthem. If you don't agree, by all means keep watching football. There's really nothing I can do to change how fans across the nation behave (though I wish there was sometimes), so there's really no relevance in getting them involved. I can, however; choose not to buy any merchandise, attend any more games, or provide any more revenue to an organization that already gets plenty of taxpayer dollars. That is MY right of free speech and my right as a consumer. It's getting to the point where we as a nation just overlook the constant issues bombarded upon us as "silly" and just go about our day. I choose to put my money where my mouth is. If you want to continue watching football, then I applaud you for it. I have no hard feelings and I will try not to lose any sleep over it, Brother. As Brother Otherstar stated: in the grand scheme of things, it's just not that important.
I didnt know that about the COWBOYS...and im a cowboys fan

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