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PHO vs PHA

Winter

Premium Member
Interesting. Mind providing a citation? From what I can find GL of SC and WV consider both PHA and PHO irregular and unrecognized.
"The UGLE has officially stated that the philosophy and practice of Prince Hall Masonry are of "exemplary regularity". The historical formation, while unusual by today's standards, was considered acceptable by the standards of the 18th century."
 

CantorArcani

Registered User
"The UGLE has officially stated that the philosophy and practice of Prince Hall Masonry are of "exemplary regularity". The historical formation, while unusual by today's standards, was considered acceptable by the standards of the 18th century."

OK, That's the UGLE position. Now, please provide where the GL of SC says the same. Thanks.
 

Winter

Premium Member
It's required for GL of SC Masons and those traveling in SC. Fact remains, the GL of SC views both PHA and PHO irregular and clandestine.
Prince Hall in SC is Regular. By virtue of the fact that they adhere to the Ancient Landmarks and conduct themselves in every respect as Regular Freemasons. The MWPHGLofSC is not Recognized by the mainstream GLofSC for whatever reason they have stated among themselves of which I am not interested.
 

CantorArcani

Registered User
Prince Hall in SC is Regular. By virtue of the fact that they adhere to the Ancient Landmarks and conduct themselves in every respect as Regular Freemasons. The MWPHGLofSC is not Recognized by the mainstream GLofSC for whatever reason they have stated among themselves of which I am not interested.

By that logic you would find the Grand Lodge of France regular. Fact remains, in certain jurisdictions such as the GL of SC , Prince Hall in all forms is considered officially by that grand lodge as irregular and clandestine. They're wrong, but that is their official stance.
 

Winter

Premium Member
By that logic you would find the Grand Lodge of France regular. Fact remains, in certain jurisdictions such as the GL of SC , Prince Hall in all forms is considered officially by that grand lodge as irregular and clandestine. They're wrong, but that is their official stance.
Sorry. But you are wrong on this one. The GLofSC can choose not to recognize them but they are Regular. I don't think you have a good grasp of the terminology regarding Regularity and Recognition. And, the Grand Lodge de France is considered Regular by many Mainstream Grand Lodges though they are not Recognized.
 

CantorArcani

Registered User
Sorry. But you are wrong on this one. The GLofSC can choose not to recognize them but they are Regular. I don't think you have a good grasp of the terminology regarding Regularity and Recognition. And, the Grand Lodge de France is considered Regular by many Mainstream Grand Lodges though they are not Recognized.

OK dude. This is my last post on this topic. According to the GL of SC both PHA and PHO are considered, by the GL of SC to be irregular and clandestine. This is a fact. Feel free to check it out yourself.
 

Winter

Premium Member
OK dude. This is my last post on this topic. According to the GL of SC both PHA and PHO are considered, by the GL of SC to be irregular and clandestine. This is a fact. Feel free to check it out yourself.
Have a nice day. Sorry I wasn't able to help you understand how Recognition works.
 
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