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Ah! I thought I had returned my past, sorry, installed ;-) master’s to my lodge for reuse as is our custom when I got the dark blue ones, but I hadn’t. I found it looking rather sorry for itself (don’t worry, I’m pressing it under some books.) These are standard English ones. I always thought...

UGLE has silver / chrome chains on light blue and gold on dark blue provincial and above

A quick Google suggests a G is used in Spain at least.

England uses a G. Good question about the D though!

Maybe somebody got confused with claddagh rings ;-)

Welcome from England

Thanks for that, I certainly will. Profound apologies for confusing you.

No, it’s the UGLE that would do that, not us? They probably have people poised in Great Queen Street poised to do that as we speak… errr…. type. I started by saying this is just a chat forum

Why do you think the UGLE put up the page then?

Didn’t you see the link to the UGLE website in my post?

This is just a chat forum. You can register interest officially here. They will put you in touch with Masonry in your country if you are serious. Grand Lodge of England International Contacts Be aware that there are scams. It does not cost much money to be a mason, and if somebody tells you you...

It looks similar to the ones UGLE still issues, although they have less information on them and three columns. I think those are printed on vellum, at least they used to be.

That would have been you and Tyson Fury in trouble then. The 2012 stats should be due any day now. Let’s wait and see what’s changed.

Good thought, but I personally wouldn’t risk that. The numbers of Romany / Roma are relatively tiny as far as I know. I looked it up on the UK government stats website.

A decent portrayal as I remember. They can be pretty tough according to my limited knowledge. Witness heavyweight boxing champion Tyson Fury, The Gypsy King. I don’t think they come much tougher than that!

I’m a mason with more than 25 years experience. I must say that if someone asked me if I was a travelling man here on the street in England, it would go straight over my head. The stronger meaning here is (respectfully) “Are you a gypsy?”

It wouldn’t be much fun being the only Mason in a country either. One of the most enjoyable parts is meeting other masons in your lodge regularly and visiting other lodges.

Yes. I’ve been a mason in England for over 20 years and I’ve never heard of them. I read the article and I don’t think we have an equivalent here either, apart from learning the answers to some questions asked by the master in the degree, but I imagine that’s the same in North America anyway? I...

I’m in England and got mine about 20 years ago. Unfortunately it came in an ordinary brown manilla envelope! I don’t think I’ve ever seen a hardback one. I agree it would be a cool thing to have, although it probably won’t be long before the paper / velum certificates are replaced with a...