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Our lodge has hurt a few peoples feelings that wear them on their sleeve so much so in some cases they left all together but the goods ones come back and stick around because their is discipline and something to work for. I am with you WM we need to add that to our rules or regs not the...

comparing a women to an atheist is a bit like apple to oranges. I would propose that an atheist would have no desire to join a God loving/fearing community but a women very well would.

I respect your opinion on this matter but if you talk Masonry with a woman Freemason this is not a violation of your obligation.

What stops a Lodge from adopting in their rules or regulations that your WM has to be certed by the DI. Why does GL have to make us do it why can we not be big boys and do it on our own. Sure you have Lodges who do not give a stink but that law did not change them last year nor will it change...

Sorry for leaving off Sister, my Sister.

and that is your Right, but would you treat that man like a Brother if he got voted in despite you believing he should not be a Mason?

sorry that did have the feel of a riot breaking out, it was just everybody jumped up and left even while the new GJW was speaking. no real chaos sorry Wing.. ! :001_tongue:

I did so very much enjoy myself. I hope to make as many as those as I can. I hear allot about how bad it is down there but really when you realize what you are doing it is not so bad. Sure there is allot of politics and parliamentary procedure but what happens down there shapes the future of...

no, chaos ensued after GJW was announced and they are elected in that time and there were no other nom.

Walt Rodgers was elected to the GS and Archie Scott and Tommie Guest were voted back in.

at least 20 with amendment failed, I thought we where then to vote on just the res. 20 but we did not? I am probably wrong but that seemed to be how the others where done. This is my first time to GL mind you.

19 was tabled and 20 failed

Call me Ken, I do not work over the phone very well but I know you have been working at this very hard for a while now and maybe I can pick up the ball again and help.

He did kinda make his statements altamadumess, I thought that was weird. That one was fun. The only question I have is was that guy really at the first meeting.. ?:001_tt2:

Dude that is so awesome.

Yes judgment is the same but as you said further down the ladder. We all know some people are just evil and will do bad things just to do them. Are you better than them because you do good things or would you even have good things to do if bad things never happened? My point is we are not...

Now look at what ya'll have done you have Brother Tom preaching to us.. ! :wink: I propose this is another level of judgment than Christ was talking about. Jesus is referring to the deepest level of judgment that of ones own superiority over another but we as Masons judge for safety and...

okay 19 would get rid of proxies but 20 would still allow them if both WM and Wardens were not there got it.

I did not think 19 0r 20 did away with proxies? I read it as that a PM, WM or Warden could not be a proxy b/c that would give them 2 votes but you could still vote you SD a proxy or did I just read that way wrong?

The start of this prop. regards the ballot on the time of GL com. but does the second part have to do with that vote only or to all the voting at GL. This seems to be 2 proposals in one. 19 though is the same as the second part of this one? so confusing. :001_huh: