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Thank you.

Yes I guess I did miss that part of it. What I get for reading before coffee. It sounded as if you found being with older Brethren a put-off and the ritual senseless. I stand corrected (actually I'm sitting corrected). Thanks for clarifying.

I was23 when Raised in1980. They got a dispensation so I could get it done while home on leave. I got stationed in my hometown on Recruiting Duty and went through the York Rite In July of '80.

I was 24 when I joined.

The Benjamin's ($) are going to be a continuing problem for every organization for probably another generation, which is why I am promoting a drastic uniform shift. I am also looking at tactics and ritual changes for the other bodies. Our state doesn't require either appendant body for Shrine...

Point well made. By the same token one could debate what is Christianity, but that would be for another site entirely. the way I look at it is that the YR is set up the way that it is, the SR the way that it is. you can join one of both on the grounds of how and what way you wish to believe.

DeMolay is for boys and the other is for certain members of the Armed Forces active/former/retired.

I believe that you are beating a dead horse and that I am assisting you. From all of your posts I gather that your primary objection to the Order is the idea of, of the clause of Christianity in the Knights Templar. I stated what I know and I only deal with it at our level. If one of my 3rd...

We wear our uniforms, if you have one, for every meeting and for some other Masonic functions such as the Arch of Steel for installing the DeMolay Master Councilor. But I understand the expensive factor and want to make changes.

Hand-me-downs can be a blessing. Our Commandery is blessed with some of that to include several swords, a couple of blouses, even my cheapeau is older than I am; however, not every Commandery is so lucky. But in the interest of the salvation and growth of our order I still desire to make a...

We have all sinned and fallen short; and I am probably among the biggest of sinners.

A naval CPO coat can easily be turned into a Templar blouse.

Defend has many meanings and applications. A theological debate/discussion could be looked at as "defending".

Well a few years ago we had a GHP in IL that was Jewish and he is in the Commandery.

I joined in July 1980. I do know that in the ritual in Illinois you swear to defend the Christian faith.

Thanks for your comments. I have a proposal that I am working on that would harken back to the look of the origin of our Order, very comfortable, and save the wearer anywhere from $160 to $625. It also includes a secondary uniform within its habit and you don't end up looking like the commander...

To each their own, but what gets overlooked is that the Order does not require that you be a Christian, only that you'll defend the Christian Faith.

Have you forgotten the EA Charge to the Candidate?

Ours are metal on thick blue cords that are older than me

As a recovering catholic, I think that God is none too happy with the slaughter of millions of people by the catholic church since its inception in the 3rd century. As to Jesus, he is alive today.