He is not. They thought about making him a mason at sight posthumously. You kinda have to be alive to get the degrees though.
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Honorary Masons? (KRS1 specifically)
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He is not. They thought about making him a mason at sight posthumously. You kinda have to be alive to get the degrees though.
Dontrell Stroman
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Although I don't know of any honorary masons personally, I have heard of them. Mainly within PHA masonry. I don't know how it would really work, because they weren't initiated, passed and raised. I guess it's just a "Title" like the brother said previously.
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Randy81
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John Elway was raised in a two day class by the Grand Lodge of Colorado.
Well, they may or may not know anything. Honorary doctorates are usually given because someone knew somethin' about somethin'. Admittedly, I'm not impartial: I have an honorary doctorate in law, but also a juris doctorate. So, I know somethin, depending on the day.
dfreybur
Premium Member
None of my 3 jurisdictions CA/IL/TX do honorary Mason status on non-Masons.
Two of them IL/TX allow lodges to vote honorary membership on men who are already Brothers. In Illinois it's called Honorary Member. I'm an Honorary Member at one of my two Illinois lodges. In Texas it's called Life Member (so we change the name of what most jurisdictions call Life Member to Endowed Member). Being an honorary member of a lodge is not what you asked but it could well be confused.
Ronald Reagan was given an honorary 33rd. Did that make him a Mason? No. But that's another status that could easily be confused.
I notice that no one has posted that their jurisdiction does honorary Mason status. I suspect that no regular jurisdiction does but there's no way to check with them all to find out for certain.
Might there be clandestine jurisdictions that do it? I've heard of on-line degree conferral that sounded to me like a degree mill. Someone might believe they are an honorary Mason through such a clandestine jurisdiction. Normally I point out that most clandestine lodges are forces for good in their communities and that most members are not aware of the clandestine status of their lodge. I explicitly exclude any on-line conferral from that. People who get fake college degrees from on line degree mills know it. So does anyone who gets fake renditions of our type of degrees that why.
There are not really honorary freemasons. They can be a honorary Scottish Rite mason or honorary Shriner but that doesn't make you a freemason. Those are appendant bodies, they cannot confer the first 3 degrees on anyone with the exception of the Scottish Rite craft lodges but they are craft lodges and not AASR to the best of my knowledge.
acjohnson53
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Who does that, it takes away from the ceremony...
Derinique Kendrick
Registered User
Can you elaborate on this or provide a source, brother? As I've never heard of such thing. The only thing honorary that I have knowledge of is within the Scottish Rite (not going deep into that because I am not a member of the SR as of, yet) Outside of that little, I know nothing of anything like that.
My personal feelings towards the whole "honorary" thing. Why not just go through your degrees to get the title instead of having it just handed to you? I think that is unfair to the craft.
Dontrell Stroman
Premium Member
I do not have a source other than word of mouth. I gave the one that I've heard multiple times which is DR. Martin Luther King. A brother advised me that there was no such thing, so I don't really know. You will notice more men called honorary masons that were influential in "African American" history.
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Bloke
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I often called friends "honourary mason" because they share the values and integrity of Freemasonry. Although I've used those words, I do so to reflect my own high opinion of the person rather than them having some sort of actual "honourary Freemason" status that would be recognized by anyone else.. perhaps that is how this phrase is being used at you have heard it ?
Dontrell Stroman
Premium Member
I would say so. In other words an honorable man that was not initiated into the craft.
Warrior1256
Site Benefactor
Agreed.
Remember, you can make anyone an honourary "something," even within Freemasonry. I'm an Honourary Past Master... that, and $2.79, will get me a decent cup of coffee (with refills) at Mollie's Country Kitchen.
Buuuut, you're already a MM.
Warrior1256
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Exactly!
True.
Dontrell Stroman
Premium Member
Speaking on DR. Martin Luther King Jr http://www.midnightfreemasons.org/2013/01/martin-luther-king-freemason-or-not.html?m=1
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The Traveling Man
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Ronald Reagan received 3 certificates in 1988. He received a Certificate of Honors from the Grand Lodge of D.C, presented in the oval office by the Grand Master. He was then awarded a certificate that conferred the Title of Honorary Scottish Rite Mason (it was a join honor bestowed by the NMJ and SJ together). He then received a certificate from the Imperial Potentate designating him an Honorary member of the Shrines Imperial Council.
acjohnson53
Registered User
That's just a recognition thing, Nancy wouldn't let him attend meetings without her being there.
acjohnson53
Registered User
I'm not sure if MLK was a Master Mason....