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GETTING HEALED

JB93

Registered User
There are regular lodges who have a degree fee. It seems that these are generally charged in jurisdictions where you only pay membership fees as a MM, but different jurisdictions (and lodges for that matter) have different structures. The most expensive (legitimate) lodge I've ever heard of is $850 per year plus Grand Lodge fee - but it is a dinning lodge which has an orchestra. That particular lodge is like all here - there is no degree fees to be advanced and the annual lodge fees are all you pay. Typically they might be from $50 to $350 per year.
wow! 850! That has to be for rich men only lol Do prince hall or mainstream do a lot of assessments and fundraising in you all jurisdictions?
 

Bloke

Premium Member
wow! 850! That has to be for rich men only lol

I agree, too rich for me too - AND dinner is $80 on top. It is what is called a "dining lodge" and we have long history of them here. Kent Henderson has been a particular promoter of the concept and set up Lodge Epicurean and Amalthea . He has his own web site here but has published papers.. but the American idea of Traditional Observance lodge is what good lodges do here as standard, but with a much less vigorous focus on education.

Do prince hall or mainstream do a lot of assessments and fundraising in you all jurisdictions?

There is no such thing as "Prince Hall" Freemasonry in Australia - it's a phenomenon unique to the United States...

Fundraising is really mixed, there are a handful of lodges which do it well, the best last year raised $45K in a dinner (but I think that was the gross amount)..... typically our lodges probably only raise <$2K per year, the lodges I'm in don't do that but get close, that said, one of our members had a family tragedy and we raised almost $1K in a night for him
 

Bloke

Premium Member
There is no such thing as "Prince Hall" Freemasonry in Australia - it's a phenomenon unique to the United States...

WRONG !!!

HOW INTERESTING - Prince Hall got exported to South Africa

"Prince Hall Masonry, which had existed in South Africa for over seventy years, was as yet unrecognized by ‘Regular’ Freemasonry and its members felt isolated from their own Grand Lodge in Philadelphia, USA"

I've started a thread on this here http://www.myfreemasonry.com/threads/freemasonry-uniting-men-even-during-apartheid.27002/
 

tldubb

Premium Member
I would suggest you check Liberia also and do some more research on Prince Hall and the history of Prince Hall Masonry. Also Rev. Richard Allen and Rev. Absalom Jones. There is way more to it than just a " U.S." thing.
African Lodge, #459
African Lodge, #459(b)

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Bill Lins

Moderating Staff
Staff Member
we only conduct business on the 3rd degree and the lodge must be opened and closed on such. ( lodge is raised or lowered depending on degree work and or instruction ). Business is only conducted on the 3rd.
We operated that way until 2007. That year's Grand Master proposed that we could also do our business in either the EA or FC degree, depending upon who were present. The theory was that, by including EAs & FCs at our meetings, we would create more interest in them progressing through their degrees. In my experience, it has been an abject failure.
 

Glen Cook

G A Cook
Site Benefactor
wow! 850! That has to be for rich men only lol Do prince hall or mainstream do a lot of assessments and fundraising in you all jurisdictions?
About $637US. If with meals, that's not too bad. There is is an appendant body where just the midyear meeting is $250US for two meals.
 

Bloke

Premium Member
About $637US. If with meals, that's not too bad. There is is an appendant body where just the midyear meeting is $250US for two meals.

Nope, does not include meals. I'm pretty sure it is the most expensive lodge in Victoria, but it only meets 5 times a year...
 

The Traveling Man

Registered User
Honestly, I dont want to go through another initiation and pay for those degrees again, and I highly doubt i will get a refund from modern fee

You will need to take your degrees over. If you were coming from a recognized Jurisdiction you would demit from the old Lodge and wouldn't retake the degrees. But as you're coming from a Clandestine organization your demit wouldn't be accepted. You would petition, get voted on, and follow the same process as any new member. I went thru the same thing. Trust me, it isn't that bad going thru the degrees again.
 

MRichard

Mark A. Ri'chard
Premium Member
You will need to take your degrees over. If you were coming from a recognized Jurisdiction you would demit from the old Lodge and wouldn't retake the degrees. But as you're coming from a Clandestine organization your demit wouldn't be accepted. You would petition, get voted on, and follow the same process as any new member. I went thru the same thing. Trust me, it isn't that bad going thru the degrees again.

I believe the healing process was primarily for clandestine masons. If you were from another regular &/or recognized jurisdiction, there would not be a need to heal as you were already a master mason. I know the PHA grand lodge in Texas doesn't use the healing process anymore. I was told that when I visited one.
 

The Traveling Man

Registered User
I believe the healing process was primarily for clandestine masons. If you were from another regular &/or recognized jurisdiction, there would not be a need to heal as you were already a master mason. I know the PHA grand lodge in Texas doesn't use the healing process anymore. I was told that when I visited one.

Yes, it's only used for people coming from Clandestine lodges.In Michigan it's called Renouncing.
 
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Ressam

Guest
Why Clandestine("wild") Lodges are "recruiting" people?
For what "purpose"!?
 

acjohnson53

Registered User
Their strength in numbers, as the true is given in Prince Hall Masonry, some will disagree (I'm opening a can of worms here).
 
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