Radical540
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Do tell.....It's funny how quickly a thread can change to show what the real problem might be...
Do tell.....It's funny how quickly a thread can change to show what the real problem might be...
It's allows an objection, though we allow a trial at the candidate's request
I agree that for a candidate for advancement, that would be the better means of approaching it.I have never heard of us having any provision for a trial at a candidate's request. There might be one; I have just never heard of it. For us, as I said, one single objection is the equivalent to one single black cube. If I member says "I object" when the question is asked, then that's the end of it; you close the lodge and go home. I've honestly never seen that happen in open lodge. If you have an objection to a candidate's advancement, take care of it in private with the WM, and then he doesn't have to schedule the man's next degree conferral. To do it in open lodge, in my opinion, would simply be grandstanding.
Since the "good ole boy" system seems to prevail most often, the status quo always prevails as well. No one wants to make waves. All the current officers know, but apparently don't care.
As I mentioned, I can't sit in lodge with a clear conscience with this individual; I'll be looking to transfer to a new lodge.
The glaring question in my mind is why didn't you black ball this guy when his application was presented before the lodge? He's been accepted, initiated, and passed...but now there's a problem?
In MI, one will do it.Easier said than done in some jurisdictions. You have to have three black balls in Texas do be denied.
In MI, one will do it.
Unfortunately since the vote was snuck in on the sneak, I wasn't given a ballot.
Exactly...I wasn't at the meeting. I just happened to go to Royal Arch that night, and missed the balloting (I almost think they did it on purpose)How is this possible? We vote on candidates during open lodge here. If you are a member of the lodge, you must vote to the best of my knowledge. Unless you were not at that meeting.
This has all the earmarks of the "we've always done it this way" mentality written all over it.Don't come to my lodge, my work, my town, my state, or my country and tell me where you left was better; I will tell that person that I'm positive the road that got them here has a lane going back the other direction. (end of rant )
As Companion Joe said, at the beginning of each degree, the second phrase from the Master is "...if there are no objections..."
Agreed, I don't like demands either.Don't come to my lodge, my work, my town, my state, or my country and tell me where you left was better; I will tell that person that I'm positive the road that got them here has a lane going back the other direction. (end of rant )
Check Articles 421-429.I've always been told that a MM can enter a protest on an EA or FC with the WM and halt his progression for a time here in Texas. It's probably nothing though, I've never seen it in the law book to my recollection.