Martlet
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Yeah, to leave and never look back.
Life’s to short to waste on lip service lodges.
Not for me. I prefer trying to make things better than when I found them.
Yeah, to leave and never look back.
Life’s to short to waste on lip service lodges.
Yeah it’s a nice idea but in practice if you get everyone just tying to change the lodge into what they want it to be you will just have a lot of infighting nonsense-Not for me. I prefer trying to make things better than when I found them.
My Mother Lodge didn’t fulfill my expectations so I visited another and discovered the Brethren that had literally been hidden from me. I still cherish that second lodge the most.
I would definitely get your MM Degree then go visiting to see if you can find a better lodge or like minded men.
you may also find your place in the appendant bodies.
All I can recommend is finding a more appropriate lodge-
I would definitely go ahead and be raised and then I would visit other lodges in your area to see if one meets your expectations of Masonry.
Good advice!You can decide that the Order is important enough that you want to make a difference and try to revitalize your Lodge. Expect resistance and phrases like, "We've never done it that way", or "We've always done it this way", or "Nobody wants to do that." And a host of many more reasons why any revitalization won't work.
Best advice I can give, get into the line and become part of the group that makes the decisions.
I, too, have learned A LOT on this site!If it wasn't for sites like this I would had stopped a long time ago.
What I have found at the lodge barely qualifies as a "Knife and Fork Lodge."
I've asked about Masonic education in the lodge-short talks and reasearch papers- "We don't do that" is the answer.
When I became Master of my home lodge I instituted some changes at opening and closing. One of the old guard told me "We don't do it that way here". My reply? "We do for the next 12 months".We don't do that" is the answer.
Exactly. As long as a WM is not trying to bring strippers in, what he says goes. As a member of the "old guard" and a PM, that has usually served us well.... it has lead us down some not-so-great ideas - like a WM talking about education without actually doing it.. but I am a big believer of electing decent WMs and then let them be a WM.... it is why, as Sec, I call them "boss".... mind you I've deal with decisive ones, but never a bossy or a WM who tried to micromanage me... but it will happen... then I will come back and read this postWhen I became Master of my home lodge I instituted some changes at opening and closing. One of the old guard told me "We don't do it that way here". My reply? "We do for the next 12 months".
Many thanks to you and all lodge Secretaries! I have always said that a lodge can survive a bad Master as long as they have a good Secretary!it is why, as Sec, I call them "boss".... mind you I've deal with decisive ones, but never a bossy or a WM who tried to micromanage me... but it will happen... then I will come back and read this post
Had to go there, didn't you... ;-)As long as a WM is not trying to bring strippers in, what he says goes.
Looks like the SW has some explaining to do.Had to go there, didn't you... ;-) View attachment 6380
Ya know, they want better meetings and then they complain. You guys.Exactly. As long as a WM is not trying to bring strippers in....
He vouched for her!Looks like the SW has some explaining to do.
***snicker snicker***Ya know, they want better meetings and then they complain. You guys.
This may be a scenario where a woman would be allowed to be present during a stated. There are exceptions to every rule...
Thats true too.You could easily have a woman do a presentation before opening the Lodge, we have had many presentations by non-Masons in this way. You just have to get the program done first, then open the Lodge and do the business that can only be done in a Tyled Lodge.
Done the same way here.You could easily have a woman do a presentation before opening the Lodge, we have had many presentations by non-Masons in this way. You just have to get the program done first, then open the Lodge and do the business that can only be done in a Tyled Lodge.
We do something here called "an open investiture" where non-freemasons come into the lodge and see the investiture of all officers (except the WM which a MM cannot see because it is done in an Installed Board) where the words are unchanged and only signs omitted; my sisters and partner have been in the lodge to see this.... but we close it before they are admitted.This may be a scenario where a woman would be allowed to be present during a stated. There are exceptions to every rule...
This is the way that officer installations are done in my jurisdiction, including WM, so that family members can attend.We do something here called "an open investiture" where non-freemasons come into the lodge and see the investiture of all officers (except the WM which a MM cannot see because it is done in an Installed Board) where the words are unchanged and only signs omitted;
You could easily have a woman do a presentation before opening the Lodge, we have had many presentations by non-Masons in this way. You just have to get the program done first, then open the Lodge and do the business that can only be done in a Tyled Lodge.