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PHA visitation

bupton52

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In the case of TX, there are a lot of PHA lodges that are not recognized because they can not directly tie their beginnings back to Europe.

I have heard this several times, but I have yet to see these other PHA lodges. I believe that you may be talking about the many predominately black A.F.& A.M GLs that we have in TX.
 

bupton52

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"This is the first I have heard of a PHA Lodge that cannot trace its lineage to the Premiere Lodge of England. The type of Lodge you describe, based on my experience, would represent an anomaly in PHA Freemasonry."

• If I could expand on this question and ask, is this because some PHA GL came from the NGL?

Even if a PHA GL comes through the NGL, it would retain the lineage to England.
 

Jamarr/G\

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Thankfully Tennessee does recognize PHA lodges. Visitation is allowed both ways. .

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Bro. Stewart P.M.

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I have heard this several times, but I have yet to see these other PHA lodges. I believe that you may be talking about the many predominately black A.F.& A.M GLs that we have in TX.

Yes, I am sorry. You are correct. I do recall several Brothers at work referring to their "four letter" Lodges... AND, some mainstream PHA co-workers clearly showing me "who" to stay away from, or better who was not legit.
 

BroParker

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I'm fairly new to the brotherhood, but I had the chance to travel with brothers from our lodge to Memphis to visit a lodge for the weekend and learned how other jurisdictions were. I am all for fellowship amongst brothers it would make the fraternity stronger.

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Cblack

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Thankfully Tennessee does recognize PHA lodges. Visitation is allowed both ways. .

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The MWPHGLoTN and the GLoTN does not have mutual recognition or visitation. .Why would you make such an untrue statement?

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Cblack

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Yes, I am sorry. You are correct. I do recall several Brothers at work referring to their "four letter" Lodges... AND, some mainstream PHA co-workers clearly showing me "who" to stay away from, or better who was not legit.

Bro. Stewart...you have to watch them...I have seen photos where Clandestine masons have been in tyled lodges with GLoState brethren...I think that the members of the GLoState are so worried about being labeled as racist that any African American freemason that they see are assumed to be PHA....

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Jamarr/G\

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The MWPHGLoTN and the GLoTN does not have mutual recognition or visitation. .Why would you make such an untrue statement?

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bupton52

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The MWPHGLoTN and the GLoTN does not have mutual recognition or visitation. .Why would you make such an untrue statement?

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That is correct Bro. Black. Those two GLs do not allow visitation.

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Jamarr/G\

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I apologize brother this is all new news to me. . I've only been a MM for 3months and I was never told this. . Sorry for any misconception

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Cblack

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I apologize brother this is all new news to me. . I've only been a MM for 3months and I was never told this. . Sorry for any misconception

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It's not a problem...If I sounded a little too overbearing or out of line I apologize my Brother

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Jamarr/G\

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It's not a problem...If I sounded a little too overbearing or out of line I apologize my Brother

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No your fine! I appreciate you sharing li/G\ht brother. . I needed to know that information

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