The pretend 1% aspect of the Widow's Sons turns me off.
I was a WS and I only saw chapters making sure they didn't act or give the impression of 1% clubs. Curious what you've seen that gave that gave that impression.
The pretend 1% aspect of the Widow's Sons turns me off.
I was referring to the large group rides where you join unknown riders. My riding group (FTFM) is pretty safety conscious. Former military, first responders and families.They do happen sometimes. Group I ride with does only single file and its more of the ride than the destination. We do not hurry, we get there when we get there.... 99% of the group have cruisers.
I was a WS and I only saw chapters making sure they didn't act or give the impression of 1% clubs. Curious what you've seen that gave that gave that impression.
The leather vest style with patches isn't a 1% thing. It's used across motorcycle clubs, riding clubs, riding associations etc. Around the world. Actions define 1% MC's. Specifically, criminal actions. And by their very definition it is only 1% of clubs that behave that way. And if a Masonic club is behaving that way, then they are not behaving as Masons and should be dealt with accordingly by their GL. Come on, Keith, you are literally saying that you are judging riders based on how they are dressed. LolThe groups of WS I have seen have all worn "cuts", no helmets, riding side by side, all had the typical "Officer" patches ("Prez", "Enforcer" and some of their ladies had the "Property of" patches on their backs.
If you google the WS and the actions of the GLof Massachusetts reasons for banning that group you will see what I mean. There is also a history of SOME (not ALL) WS groups going to the dominant 1% MC in their area to gain "permission" to exist. Perhaps your WS group is not a pretend 1% club, but many are.
As for Masonic clubs getting "permission" from the local 1% that "controls" that area, it absolutely happens. My own WS chapter had to do it. And I find the practice disgusting. As if we should go to a criminal organization with our hat in our hand to ask them for anything. The fact that they still ride around and terrorize other riders into following their rules, not just Masonic clubs, is mind boggling in this day and age. But too many people believe it is the price you pay for two wheels on the road.
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It is not the price you pay for riding a motorcycle, or even riding in a group or being in a riding organization. It is the price you pay for wearing cuts with patches on the back. The 1% consider that "their thing" and it is my belief they are right, and people who want to dress like that and go to them for permission are indeed emulating the 1%ers.
Nothing wrong with back patches.... Now adding rockers to the back is a different story.
I'm sorry, but saying that 1%ers own the style of back patch with rockers and anyone wearing them is emulating 1%ers would be the same as saying that anyone riding a motorcycle is emulating 1%ers because they ride motorcycles.Like this?
or this?
or this?
Most of the Widow's Sons groups I have seen where "3 part patches" i.e a large patch with upper and lower rockers, as shown. This style of patch set emulates the 1%er image, IMO.
.Hell, the Star Wars club I belong to with over 12,000 members wears leather and jean vests with back three part back patches.
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You’re not in Chicago?
My oldest is there, having too much fun to tell me how much fun they’re having. He’s a trooper, wife is a TIE pilot.