Stolen Souls

Discussion in 'General Freemasonry Discussion' started by Mark Stockdale, Apr 3, 2019.

  1. Winter

    Winter Premium Member

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    I was a WS and I only saw chapters making sure they didn't act or give the impression of 1% clubs. Curious what you've seen that gave that gave that impression.
     
  2. Glen Cook

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    I was referring to the large group rides where you join unknown riders. My riding group (FTFM) is pretty safety conscious. Former military, first responders and families.
     
  3. Keith C

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    The groups of WS I have seen have all worn "cuts", no helmets, riding side by side, all had the typical "Officer" patches ("Prez", "Enforcer" and some of their ladies had the "Property of" patches on their backs.

    If you google the WS and the actions of the GLof Massachusetts reasons for banning that group you will see what I mean. There is also a history of SOME (not ALL) WS groups going to the dominant 1% MC in their area to gain "permission" to exist. Perhaps your WS group is not a pretend 1% club, but many are.
     
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  4. Winter

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    The leather vest style with patches isn't a 1% thing. It's used across motorcycle clubs, riding clubs, riding associations etc. Around the world. Actions define 1% MC's. Specifically, criminal actions. And by their very definition it is only 1% of clubs that behave that way. And if a Masonic club is behaving that way, then they are not behaving as Masons and should be dealt with accordingly by their GL. Come on, Keith, you are literally saying that you are judging riders based on how they are dressed. Lol

    As for Masonic clubs getting "permission" from the local 1% that "controls" that area, it absolutely happens. My own WS chapter had to do it. And I find the practice disgusting. As if we should go to a criminal organization with our hat in our hand to ask them for anything. The fact that they still ride around and terrorize other riders into following their rules, not just Masonic clubs, is mind boggling in this day and age. But too many people believe it is the price you pay for two wheels on the road.

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  5. Keith C

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    It is not the price you pay for riding a motorcycle, or even riding in a group or being in a riding organization. It is the price you pay for wearing cuts with patches on the back. The 1% consider that "their thing" and it is my belief they are right, and people who want to dress like that and go to them for permission are indeed emulating the 1%ers.
     
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  6. Winter

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    I agree. Riders who arent 1% don't owe them anything. And I'll let my local Legion Riders know that they're trying to emulate 1%'ers. :D

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  7. Thomas Stright

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    Nothing wrong with back patches.... Now adding rockers to the back is a different story.
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  8. Keith C

    Keith C Registered User

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    Like this?

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    Most of the Widow's Sons groups I have seen where "3 part patches" i.e a large patch with upper and lower rockers, as shown. This style of patch set emulates the 1%er image, IMO.
     
  9. Thomas Stright

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    Real 1% 3 part patches have a state/location/territory on them.
    Not of the ones you shown are authorized here in TX by the TGLOT.

    Wearing rockers IMHO isn't smart.
     
  10. Winter

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    I'm sorry, but saying that 1%ers own the style of back patch with rockers and anyone wearing them is emulating 1%ers would be the same as saying that anyone riding a motorcycle is emulating 1%ers because they ride motorcycles.

    Hell, the Star Wars club I belong to with over 12,000 members wears leather and jean vests with back three part back patches. [​IMG]

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  11. Brother JC

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    You’re not in Chicago?
     
  12. Winter

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    No, This is the first Celebration I have missed in a long time.
     
  13. Brother JC

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    My oldest is there, having too much fun to tell me how much fun they’re having. He’s a trooper, wife is a TIE pilot.
     
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  14. Winter

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    I'm the best kind of trooper. A Scout Trooper. TB-3763 DarthShlomo.jpg
     
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  15. Brother JC

    Brother JC Vigilant Staff Member

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    Also known as comfy pants troopers? (Kidding, I’ve heard from scouts that the uniform is way easier to spend eight hours in.)
     
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