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Thestoat

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Hello everybody, I have had some strange events today, which although connected to my lodge, are connected to freemasonry in the uk.

I think I've pretty much had it now with freemasonry and I am considering leaving.

I hinted on this before, I have some stuff to hand over that is enlightening and important, after today, no English freemason will ever see them anyway, so here goes, if anyone wants the stuff, and wants to come and get it, of is in the uk, you can have it, if not, I will post it if someone sends me the postage cost, you guys are great, but I've had enough, and am leaving.

If no one is interested, I will burn the documents and stuff and anything not metal or burnable I will dump in the river, sorry if that sounds bad, but I wish to honor my ancestors going back to 1390 and beyond by not allowing the stuff to get into the wrong hands, and I wish to honor the ancestors who kept some of that stuff safe for millennia.

If no one can help, that's cool, before i forget, I can only give it to a royal arch or above.

I think above all else I'm hurting inside, I found out my wifes facing permanent disability a few weeks ago, and I find freemasonry turns on me badly.

All the best guys.
 
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Thestoat

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Just to let you guys know my decision is made and I am leaving, I'm leaving it two weeks and then getting rid of my regalia and documents and manuscripts for good.
 

Bro. Bennett

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I am deeply saddened that someone in authority does not want to at least take a peek at what you have to offer. I would be most happy if the shipping costs weren't very high to take these if I was already above the Blue Lodge level. I am planning on going Scottish Rite in June, but that may be too late for your desire to place these things in someones hands.
Keep the faith Sir, sometimes it gets really dark before the light gets turned on..
Be Blessed..

Fraternally Yours
 
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Thestoat

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Hello brother Bennett

I am prepared to wait until June no trouble at all if your interested, I intend on keeping the rest of the gold as I will need the money for my wifes continuing care in the future, shame really as some of the gold dates back a real long time.

The other stuff will truly rock your world, and it explains in very clear detail some long lost stuff, going back many hundreds if years, it does mention the new world and that is you guys over in Texas, so it's good it will be going over, come June get in touch and we can arrange to send you the stuff, just be clear though, your perception of the world will change after seeing this stuff, and you will hold many great secrets to hold and pass on to the next generation, or to use should you need to.

And of course over here no one showed any interest at all, so you will be the one to hold and pass on.

Your correct, the darkest time is the time before dawn, but I just can't see how I can carry on being a freemason, clearly I will keep forever quiet about my knowledge.

I am also gunna keep the sword and dagger, as my ancestors fought many battles over many generations with them, the rest brother is yours
 

Tony Siciliano

Premium Member
Thestoat - I'm interested in seeing what you have available. Please PM me at your convenience.

I'm sorry to hear that you're going through such a rough patch. I pray that everything works out for you...

Bro. Bennett - If you don't mind, please keep me in the loop on this one. Maybe we can work together.
 
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Thestoat

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Hi there

Glad your interested, if indeed you know brother Bennett, you could work together, and of course I'm glad to meet anyone in the uk if you happen to come over this way.

I will pm you my email my man, but remember I am not withholding Anything from freemasonry, I have just had enough of it all.

I think the worse bit is my mothers harassment by fellow masons etc, once she is gone, and my wife has gone, (she won't love as long as me due to her disability), I truly stand alone, I'm hurting inside quite badly this day, and the pain will remain with me for some time
 

Bro. Bennett

Premium Member
Bro. Tony... Absolutely. Theostat, PM me and we can begin to make arrangements as soon as possible, once i'm in the SR....
 
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Thestoat

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Sorry to rant away a bit, but my lodge know my wife is facing permanent disability, and an early death, they know my mothers situation, but not once have they asked how she is or offered any support, my wife faces a horrendous early death, my mother will not live much longer due to illness, and all my fellow masons do here, is harrass us, ok from another lodge, I sit alone, I hurt inside, the two people I truly love will soon be dead, I have no one, thing is, I'm happier to stand alone, as I'd rather do that than stand with people who cannot offer any real support or comfort.

Guess I'm just explaining how I feel, I truly don't have anyone else to speak to, I will check in every now and again to say hi and see how things are going over there, forgot to ever say, I'm a country music fan, and just love the red stegall song, gone to Texas, it epitomizes how I feel about uk life
 
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Thestoat

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I know I am posting a lot, but just to let you all know, heard from some of my lodge members regarding my leaving, people who know my situation, and basically they just said see ya, shame, and goodbye, so goes to show doesn't it really it was the right thing to do, I do however leave in good standing, I was gunna go and say goodbye to all the guys, I shan't bother now.

Tony and brother Bennett the stuff is yours come June, it's bed time here, so good night all
 

tbone1321

Premium Member
Bro. Thestoat I am sorry for the trouble u are going through if you want someone to just talk to feel free to PM me and I will give u my email I won't try to change your decision but it sounds like you want to stay it is just the people around you make you feel alone but again I am here for my brother in need so please let me know if I can help in any way.
 
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Thestoat

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Thanks for all your prayer and support, woke up this morning thinking I may change my mind, but its remained as it was last night, to be honest, I've taken a lot of knocks guys, and I take them, I stand tall and move on.

Like I said, the people around me from my lodge are getting me down, I think, and the hurt feels like I've been kicked in the gut, physical, I know I have to carry on for the sake of my family, but my goodness, i could do with some help every now and again.
 

LCWebb

Premium Member
Bro. Thestoat - my thoughts and prayers are with you and yours; being so new to the Fraternity I do not know what advice I could offer. Bro. Bennett - I am "just down the road" from you in Texas miles and when the time comes I would be more than happy to help you offset any shipping costs that I could if needed.
 

Bro. Stewart P.M.

Lead Moderator Emeritus
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Hello everybody, I have had some strange events today, which although connected to my lodge, are connected to freemasonry in the uk.

I think I've pretty much had it now with freemasonry and I am considering leaving.

I hinted on this before, I have some stuff to hand over that is enlightening and important, after today, no English Freemason will ever see them anyway, so here goes, if anyone wants the stuff, and wants to come and get it, of is in the uk, you can have it, if not, I will post it if someone sends me the postage cost, you guys are great, but I've had enough, and am leaving.

If no one is interested, I will burn the documents and stuff and anything not metal or burnable I will dump in the river, sorry if that sounds bad, but I wish to honor my ancestors going back to 1390 and beyond by not allowing the stuff to get into the wrong hands, and I wish to honor the ancestors who kept some of that stuff safe for millennia.

If no one can help, that's cool, before i forget, I can only give it to a royal arch or above.

I think above all else I'm hurting inside, I found out my wifes facing permanent disability a few weeks ago, and I find freemasonry turns on me badly.

All the best guys.

My Brother, I am very sorry that you have been placed into the current circumstances. You most certainly have my thoughts and prayers.

I do have one request though. These "items" that you have for sale/gift, can you post some photos here within this thread so that the Brothers here might better view exactly what they are preparing to purchase?
 
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Thestoat

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Just to add to this, I've just spent the night with my grandma who is dying in hospital, the masons home she was in dumped her at hospital, and then didn't tell me she was dying, I moved her to a side private room, and when I rang the masons home, they just didn't care, and then I find my fellow masons there conspiring against me.
I hurt bad, the few I've spoken to from the lodge so far have said it's not a lodge matter, yeah, little help would be handy, its a living nightmare, the nurses have told me she will pass away peacefully in her sleep, this freemason stands tall
 
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