Bro. Vincent
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Unfortunately in this country they go hand in hand...
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The big pink elephant in the room...
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stuntman98
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Race is the reason, that PHA exist, but we need to put a end to the race issues, only time will tell.
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dew_time
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Are we still discussing visitation or are we now discussing intergration? Wow... I never thought in a million years I'd ever use that word in sentence or discussion outside of a history class!!
I never realized,being a country bunkin and sheltered most of my life, that race was still an issue until Bro. Vincent brought it to my attention.
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Unfortunately it is. There is a guy at my job who, until I politley let him know where I stood, would routinely call people colored. Not only did nobody say anything to him, but they made excuses for him. It wasnt until a 6ft tall black guy with two half sleeves, and at that time a mouth full of gold teeth (me), set him straight, that the foolishness stopped. We now speak cordially whenever we meet up. He wears a 32 degree ring but I dont know for certain if he is an active GLoTX member or not.
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Bro. Vincent
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Everything is subtle these days. I do find it offensive when a white person says " you are so articulate". As opposed to what? Lmao!!!
Im getting beyond those things and as the brother posted earlier that alot of it is cultural misunderstandings.
But because of this country's past race unfortunately matters. I do believe people 30 years old and younger have a different perspective on these issues, doesn't mean we should forget.
Again as far as integration goes, when I was raised there was a mainstream brother who attended our lodge. Super respectful very knowledgable and stayed for 8 hours when it was over just so he could come congratulate me.
Totally beautiful thing to witness. All the PHA accepted him with open arms. He was tried when got there then after that he was treated just like every other brother. Love it!
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Im getting beyond those things and as the brother posted earlier that alot of it is cultural misunderstandings.
But because of this country's past race unfortunately matters. I do believe people 30 years old and younger have a different perspective on these issues, doesn't mean we should forget.
Again as far as integration goes, when I was raised there was a mainstream brother who attended our lodge. Super respectful very knowledgable and stayed for 8 hours when it was over just so he could come congratulate me.
Totally beautiful thing to witness. All the PHA accepted him with open arms. He was tried when got there then after that he was treated just like every other brother. Love it!
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dew_time
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There are several black men that are MMs in the lodge I petitioned. It hasn't always been that way but I'm glad it is.
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Bro. Vincent
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Me too brother. We are slowly getting there but that doesn't mean we should stop challenging it. Ok. Now I mean it. I'm done with this thread LMAO!
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dew_time
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I was just about say see.. this horse isn't dead yet, it still kicks around when you beat it, lol.
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stuntman98
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I guess both could be correctly interpreted, but I am talking about acceptance which would ultimately lead to visitation.
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dew_time
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Dang it... acceptance... I should have thought of that one too!
So you would want PHA to remain black and MS to remain white as long as visitation was acceptable?
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stuntman98
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I want brethren to dwell together in unity.
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SW Sons of Light #77
Spain Military Consistory Orient of Europe
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dew_time
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Unity, visitation and acceptance makes sense to me.
Are there any other races in PHA? Concidering its history of how and why it came to be I could totally respect it being exclusive to black men.
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Bro. Doug, if you haven't been to a "black" rodeo then you've never seen a real rodeo!
dew_time
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For 3 years I was the only white member of a "black" church. I don't know what that has to do with a rodeo but I thought I'd throw that out there since were using quotes now to define people, lol.
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Bro. Vincent
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Yes the are other races of people that are PHA all over the globe. It really is fascinating once you think about it.
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dew_time
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So the seperation is mainly between PHA and MS lodges. That's interesting...
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dew_time
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I hope that no one takes any of my questions or comment personally. I am curious because I don't know. Its not intended to come off as an evil whitey attitude. I have nothin but respect for this topic and the struggle that has been represented. Thanks
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