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You are most welcome Shahkem. I hope the Light helps you in your journey.

Yes. Some men join the Fraternity and find the Word, and others find nothing that shall enlighten them whatsoever. We have the Fraternity that is a result of many not finding the Word. In your mind, I can see this. This is not how I take it though. It exists outside the either/or pairing of...

You are not alone my Brother! The problem most Brothers (and future possible Brothers) shall have with this is the misunderstanding that each of them bring to the word freeborn when they read it. Freeborn (and Free born) did not mean "not born into slavery" as most people define it today. It...

If you say so. I don't see this as a either/or contention. And I don't see this having anything to do with Christianity being false or true. What I do see though is that you are taking it this way, and that responding to this would then direct the thread into matters of religious belief...

I also recall that there was a vote taken back about 1700 or 1800 years ago that determined this man's status as a deity, of which was not generally accepted as fact prior. But we might not be talking about the same guy. I wonder to this day how such a thing could be substantiated as factual...

You mean his stories were not Factual?!?!?!? NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everything I learned was a LIE!!!!!! :eek:

We bother when we see taking such actions will prove a point to another that we have heavily invested in. We bother when what is being examined has some special significance to us. We bother when we want to believe something must be factual to have value. There are a lot of reason as to why...

Yet, you contribute as you can. Every one can and does within his own limitations, if they so desire. I know that I do, even with my own Asperger's challenges.

Great question! Freemasonry reinforces the Understanding that Truth and Fact are not the same thing. Much within Freemasonry is made up (and in some view, too much!) Facts are not the issue. Truth is and what is fabricated is intended to convey Truth, not Fact. (You find this in religious...

And for the very same reasons one would not want to stick to what is verifiable. Freemasonry is not about verifiable facts. It's about introducing men to the fact that not all things are verifiable. ;)

Sounds about like how many religions get started and maintained. :D

I take a different approach and have a different view. I see Freemasonry as Organizational efforts to Introduce men to Masonic Work, but it is not Masonic Work itself. I equate it to the Instruction Set, as in a road map, that is preserved and handed down to each new generation in the hope that...

It almost sounds like you're using the label "stonemason" to describe two entirely different groups. One that did the work of apprentices and journeymen who would never have any hope of becoming masters (Roman times) and another group where they not only had hope, but did (Post Roman times)...

Nah! We couldn't POSSIBLY have such narrow minded extremists within our Ranks. You must be referring to some other organization. :cool:

How do you account for all the massive and marvelous stone & cement oriented and mechanically inclined engineering undertaken by the Romans? Were not the Romans involved in these adventures not stoneworkers, architects, engineers, geometers, civil planners, and inspectors of public construction?

Thank God we don't have to deal with Extremists WITHIN the Fraternity! (snicker) :rolleyes:

OR, it merely says that Applying the Principles of Freemasonry toward the Practice of any one Faith adds Tremendous Value to the Practice of that Faith. Furthermore, its doesn't say/claim that Freemasonry is Better than any one Religion; it merely says that Practicing Masonic Principles Betters...

My Proudest Craft Moment? When I accepted the fact that I was responsible for furthering my Education and Dedicated myself toward making Education occur for me, Regardless of any Support, Non-support, Resistance or Sabotage I would get from my Brothers. My other Proud Craft Moments are when my...

The word "Cowan" (just as with the word "Ruffian") is not universally used within modern era Freemasonic Organizations. There are jurisdictions that use the word "intruder" instead (and some use the word "assassin" instead of "ruffian").

Amusing and yet saddening too. Modern Freemasonic definitions don't do justice to historical fact, not even in a symbolic form.