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Lol, nice.

Yep. One of my bathroom books.

I've got a wicked awesome apron in the works.. !

Been thinking a lot about leadership and how it affects membership in lodges over the last year or two. We are definitely lacking in this area for whatever reasons. What can we as Masons do to encourage and cultivate quality leadership in out lodges? Our few GL leadership programs are geared...

Go for it. Looks awesome.

LMAO!!! Good point.

Out of curiousity, what was the reasoning behind the Widow's Sons being denied by GL?

Wow, that sure does sound familiar.. ! Good find Ashton. I can take one good guess where you DIDN'T get it from.

Brother, if you are a Master Mason, then your time in the craft should make no difference when it comes to opinions. The longer you stay quiet, the more mess we will have to clean up later. This downward spiral will not be fixed by throwing a few dollars at it, just as our economy won't be...

What a beating.. ! Too much going on with this thread. First, I object to raising per capita at all, and would suggest lowering it until we can get some things straightened out. Throughout these 16 pages of posts, a lot has been brought up. One of the first was GL leadership. Yep. All I'll...

Hmm, or a good independent party.. !

I think that anytime you sign your name on any dotted line when financing, it is a risk, regardless of whether you can currently afford it, particularly in those "no money down" situations.

+1.

So the "lives" will go through this again, because the system is still broken. We threw a ton of money at the problem to keep people from suffering. People will still buy stuff they can't afford. It still boils down to consequences, no matter how ugly they are. I'm all for raking the...

And until we do, we haven't fixed anything.

So this "solution" fixed the problem? If what Drape is saying, that it has only slowed down the process, who is that really helping?

Riiight. That's what it would have come to? Take a look at who really got helped here. What are we doing with all the unemployed now? We helped the rich get richer, and the poor are more dependent on the govt. Nobody has to save, or be responsible for their own finances anymore, because...

And I don't want to pay for another man's mistake. So, our govt. did the right thing by bailing out the banks that screwed us to begin with, and by bailing out failing automakers who produce inferior products, giving the govt shares of ownership? With that being the other choice, I'd take...

We need an applauding emoticon. j/k

Since I'm on the sidelines, you tell me? Do mommy and daddy need to bail us out everytime we make dumb decisions? Accountability and responsibility have a role here, just like you pointed out earlier in dealing with the issues in Masonry today.