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Well, since you invited correction <G>, an order of chivalry is not a fraternal order.

Just a note, this would be a surprise to the Grand Lodge of Utah which shows a representative of the GL of Ireland.

I have no idea what brought that on. I'm not sure how one reads offense into my comments. It would appear this has degenerated into a discussion of what was/was not said. Those are seldom useful. I will let readers review the material and make their own decisions.

I didn't see a statement that there was anything "wrong" with co-ed organizations. Rather, that the poster preferred a fraternal. I am a member of a coed fraternal. I too prefer the male only. Not a question of right or wrong, just preference. If you do an internet search you can see the...

I don't disagree with the sentiment, but remember, not all GLs have the extensive requirements of proficiency often found in the US. My experience in UGLE is propounding about nine questions to the candidate with the deacon at his ear to prompt him.

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Given the number of Grand Lodges and appendant bodies, I would say no. They are also usually resolved. The current Arkansad [sic] issue is an anomaly in that sense.

And absent the odd rattling of ghostly chains, your input would be rather limited as well.

Joseph's participation in the fraternity was rather limited, as shown in History of the Church and his journals. A timeline helps demonstrate this: while the Kirtland Temple was dedicated on March 27, 1836, he was not made a Master Mason until March 16, 1842. He was martyred in 1844...

Do you really think the GM reads this list? As your rumors are clearly alarmist in nature and as you are no longer an Arkansas Mason, I suggest they will give less credence to your claims than I do. I have heard two Shrine appeals by Arkansas Masons, finding in favor of the Shrine and against...

That's my point. You hypothesize that they will fail because they can't afford a full time secretary. Wrong. Don't need a full time secretary. You hypothesize they can't afford a communication. Wrong. Don't need to meet in the hotel (none of my GLs do). I get less of venting, and more of...

Ummm, no. There are clearly outward similarities between the LDS Temple ceremonies and the US Masonic ritual. That ceremony is only a small portion of LDS theology (including that whole Book of Mormon thang). Even in that ceremony, the meaning is different, as it is a Creation drama, and the...

Many GLs do not have a FT Grand Secretary. Communications can be done quite inexpensively. Some GLs charge an attendance or registration fee. It doesn't cost that much to hold a meeting. If the GL owns a hall, it can be done for the cost of lights.

The jurisprudence report is an interesting read. It recognizes the position is contrary to the tenets of Freemasonry, but also queries whether we Latter-day Saints can be good Masons. It did pass. It was some 24 years before the first acknowledged Latter-day Saint would serve as Grand Master...

Correct, but until 1984, for a period of some 60 years, the Grand Lodge of Utah did not. This was accepted by the other GL's.

In other words, not the same benefit you. To put it another way, why don't you just do the activities your wife can do? Why do you go to lodge meetings? Why shouldn't women want the same benefit as you? Are they not deserving? I almost feel this a rehash of civil rights arguments when I was...

And, yet, UGLE says in the 1999 statement, in part,m "Brethren are therefore free to explain to non-Masons, if asked, that Freemasonry is not confined to men(even though this Grand Lodge does not itself admit women).

Well, you've lived a sheltered Masonic life. I've had any number of meals at which female Freemasons were present, both in the US and England.

While we cannot sit in lodge with any but regular Masons, why would you not want an inquiring individual of any sex to have the benefit of a craft system?

Well, I've wondered about that, given the usual coordination that occurs. ll