Accepted Avatar for a EA

[Bro Darren]

Hi guys, I understand and only a MM should display the CS as use it as an avatar but is there an accepted symbol for a EA that is Masonic in nature.

I take my EA initiation in 2 days and I can't wait to start my journey and the whole "what can a EA use" has been playing on my mind for months now.

I love the Simpsons Stonecutters avatar but would love to replace it with an appropriate symbol for an EA.


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[Bill Rose]

Await the time with patience and it will come to light soon


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[caution22113]

Bro. Browncoat, I think it is unfair to cheat future brothers out of the opportunity to receive the information conferred or communicated in degrees first hand. My advise would be to remember the name you were given. At the very least, future brothers can receive their degrees "blindly", as all brethren have done...


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[Browncoat]

Maybe the lessons and ritual taught in degree work are different in your jurisdiction, but the EA symbol was not conveyed in mine. This is information that can be gleaned with a simple Google image search, should one be so inclined to look for it. It's not a matter of cheating anyone out of anything. A full disclosure could be published (and they have been numerous times) but even that would fail to substitute for the actual experience.

Regardless, there are things that are secret and things that are not. This is not.

 

[JJones]

Maybe the lessons and ritual taught in degree work are different in your jurisdiction, but the EA symbol was not conveyed in mine. This is information that can be gleaned with a simple Google image search, should one be so inclined to look for it. It's not a matter of cheating anyone out of anything. A full disclosure could be published (and they have been numerous times) but even that would fail to substitute for the actual experience.

Regardless, there are things that are secret and things that are not. This is not.

It's different here in Texas. Just because it may not be in the degree work in one jurisdiction doesn't mean it may not be included in another jurisdiction, you even stated this...so with that in mind I'd hope we could be more respectful of the differences in our work and not just openly state something which others may feel should be learned in more traditional ways.

Yes, it's a secret you can easily google for. Then again, I could google and find a lot of our secrets if I wanted to...that doesn't mean I'd be justified in posting it though.

 

[Browncoat]

Curious as to how the most public of all Freemasonry symbols is considered a secret?

Respectful of differences in our work, yes. Absolutely. But if you are prepared to go down this road, then by the same logic, this very forum shouldn't even exist.

 

[Bro. Stewart P.M.]

Curious as to how the most public of all Freemasonry symbols is considered a secret?

Respectful of differences in our work, yes. Absolutely. But if you are prepared to go down this road, then by the same logic, this very forum shouldn't even exist.

The symbols of Freemasonry are not secret in most cases, for example our working tools. However the explanation of the symbols "can" be secret in some jurisdictions.

This forum exists because we Brethren agreed to keep what should be behind the closed Lodge door where it belongs, and is really not subject to debate.


My suggestion is to move forward...

 

[Bro Darren]

Hi Gents,
I didn't mean for my question to seem like I was asking for secrets to be posted, but after reading your comments I can see how that may seem the case - I have only 2 days to go and I'm sure it will come to light.

I was not sure that their was a symbol for an EA or FC as there is for the MM - But it would seem that there is and I will wait it out with much anticipation.

 

[masonicdove]

Hi Gents,
I didn't mean for my question to seem like I was asking for secrets to be posted, but after reading your comments I can see how that may seem the case - I have only 2 days to go and I'm sure it will come to light.

I was not sure that their was a symbol for an EA or FC as there is for the MM - But it would seem that there is and I will wait it out with much anticipation.

D4rr3n,

You are doing the right thing by waiting to hear and learn about the E.A. Listen clearly and everything will come to light. If you have to sit on your hands to avoid searching these "internets" then do so!

masonicdove

 

[Bro Darren]

I'm happy and eager to learn as all of my future brothers have done so for centuries before me.

My Mothers uncle was a Freemason and a member of the Scottish Rite and he was the one that originally sparked my interest. Before calling the GLoV (Victoria) I read most of the "Freemasons for Dummies" to get some insight into where I was contemplating on proceeding. Im not the kind of bloke (Aussie) that just runs head first into stuff on a whim as i prefer to have some idear of what may lay ahead.

The history behind freemasonry that I found in the book was amazing and it really fueled my interest more so. When reading the book I skipped all of the ritual stuff as i didn't want to spoil what lay ahead and have not been tempted to go back to the book to read more into the rituals. That was until now and with my initiation tomorrow night, I am tempted to go back to the book and read about the EA ritual. My willpower is stronger than the temptation to spoil the ONCE in a lifetime occasion so I will refrain for doing so.

 

[masonicdove]

I am happy you skipped the rituals. Enjoy tomorrow night!

 

[Bro Darren]

I am happy you skipped the rituals. Enjoy tomorrow night!

Thanks, can't wait


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[jmiluso]

When you become an EA you will know what symbol you can use.


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[Zaden]

I chose the working tools as my avatar. This was something that was published openly (even on the bookmark/card of our district deputy GM) so ai think that type of thing would be acceptable. I don't recall a 'symbol' of an EA, though.

 

[jmiluso]

Sorry I meant he could use the EA square and compass for his avatar. I should have been more specific.


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[Bro. Stewart P.M.]

Sorry I meant he could use the EA square and compass for his avatar. I should have been more specific.


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The specifics of different "versions" is irrelevant in most jurisdictions. This is one of those things that although may be acceptable in some jurisdictions is not in others.

If this newly Brother is "allowed" in his jurisdiction to wear the Square and Compasses in "any" manner prior to his being raised, then the what's and where's should be discussed between him an his Lodge in private.

 

[Bro Darren]

The specifics of different "versions" is irrelevant in most jurisdictions. This is one of those things that although may be acceptable in some jurisdictions is not in others.

If this newly Brother is "allowed" in his jurisdiction to wear the Square and Compasses in "any" manner prior to his being raised, then the what's and where's should be discussed between him an his Lodge in private.

Thank you Brother Stewart.
I had that very discussion last night with my local Brothers and it was made clear to me that in my jurisdiction, under the constitution of the UGL, I am free to wear the S&C as an Entered Apprentice.

I am sensitive to the fact that this rule is different from state to state as it is from nation to nation.
I am also sensitive to the fact that we all, as we should, have the utmost respect for the degrees and the signs, symbols & etc that come with each degree.

Bases on these two admissions, and the fact that this is an international forum as such, I will use the tools in accordance with the EA degree as sign of my fraternal respect to each and every one of my Brothers and the Craft.

 

[Bro. Stewart P.M.]

So Mote It Be.

 

[Brother_Steve]

Thank you Brother Stewart.
I had that very discussion last night with my local Brothers and it was made clear to me that in my jurisdiction, under the constitution of the UGL, I am free to wear the S&C as an Entered Apprentice.

I am sensitive to the fact that this rule is different from state to state as it is from nation to nation.
I am also sensitive to the fact that we all, as we should, have the utmost respect for the degrees and the signs, symbols & etc that come with each degree.

Bases on these two admissions, and the fact that this is an international forum as such, I will use the tools in accordance with the EA degree as sign of my fraternal respect to each and every one of my Brothers and the Craft.

Do you pay dues as an EA in your jurisdiction and have voting rights as well?

 

[Bro Darren]

Brother Steve,
I had to pay my Initiation Fee, UGL Dues & Lodge Dues before entering the Lodge Room on the night of my initiation. Even as an EA I am due to pay the next lot of dues in just over 1 month from now.

As far as voting, I believe that the answer is yes, but in saying that, I have been told so many things regarding the Lodge and Meetings and all the inbetweens and its a lot to take in at the beginning, so I could be wrong regarding the vote but im 99% sure that I do have voting rights. I am working through the constitutions for my UGL now but I'm only 1/10 of the way in. Once i do get clarification i'll be happy to share it with you.