Co-Masonry and others in Texas?

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  1. A7V

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    Yesterday, while I was searching for other Masonic forums, I ran across one in England that if I hadn't read a lot of thread headings I would have thought was completely legit, comes to find out it was "clandestine" co-masonry.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-Freemasonry

    I did more research on that site and on the web. and found that in the USA it is pretty big up around Detroit and Chicago moving up to the NorthEast.

    I even checked out there Grand Lodge homepage and it very professional and makes the organization look a lot larger than it truly is.

    http://www.co-masonry.org/

    Has anyone heard of one of any Co-Masonic Lodges here in Texas? Are there other "clandestine" lodges here that one should be aware of?
     
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  2. RJS

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    As a matter of fact I think there is, Blake didn't you post up a link about awhile back?
     
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  4. A7V

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    wow, that website is pretty deceiving to someone that is looking to petition and hasn't done their research. Not so much here in the US since they only have two lodges but certainly in England.

    I couldn't image being a member of one of those two lodges knowing that all the regular Masons in the country won't have anything to do with you once they find out that you are "irregular".

    I haven't read deep into that website but I wouldn't doubt that they claim to have some esoteric secret that makes them more tempting to those that go in for finding out the secrets of the world.
     
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  6. A7V

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    Thanks gortex,

    I really don't get why people join these irregular lodges, do they just not know any better? Do they think it is "real" Freemasonry? I can understand the women, they want to be part of something they feel excluded from but do the men feel like they are righting a wrong because they are helping women in Freemasonry?

    I have so many questions about this....

    Is anyone here really familiar with "irregular" lodges? or can point me to somewhere I can ask questions or read up on them.
     
  7. Texas_Justice85

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    There was a group that stayed here at the hotel and had their Grand Lodge in our Business Meeting rooms. My manager asked me if I could check the room for accuracy because he knows I am a Mason, but I had to tell him I could not. BTW- they were much MUCH weirder than us regular Masons.
     
  8. Texas_Justice85

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    I think it was like MW Mount Olive somethin another
     
  9. TCShelton

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    Well, just by reading a few of them, I could see how a non-Christian would be much more comfortable in one of the other organizations, and the fact that some of the others allow women would definitely attract them. When we look at how "real" Freemasonry in a lot of places has stagnated, it seems natural that some of these "new" groups would pop up.

    I gotta ask, what is your definition of "real" Freemasonry?
     
  10. A7V

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    I am not here to argue, that is why I put the real in quotes, as regular masonry is considered by most to be "real".
     
  11. Blake Bowden

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    Another question could be what is the definition of a "cladestine" Lodge?
     
  12. A7V

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    Well I don't know what "cladestine" is, but if you mean clandestine here is a nice article from The Masters Jewel.

    http://www.mastersjewel.com/masons/mm/MM07.htm
     
  13. Wingnut

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    Laws of the Grand Lodge of Texas, Art. 15. Clandestine Lodges. This Grand Lodge does not recognize as legal or Masonic any group or body of persons working under any character of charter in the United States granted by any Grand Jurisdiction which has not theretofore applied for and been given recognition by the Most Worshipful Grand Lodge of Texas, and this Grand Lodge regards as clandestine and un-Masonic, any and all such groups or bodies of persons, not affiliated and authorized to work by this Grand Lodge or by such recognized Grand Jurisdiction.
     
  14. joyrock

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    Co-Masons tend twards the esoteric, spirtual and magickal spheres of the Craft. This makes them very different from the more civic focused mainstream.

    Also, the work of the Craft is of utmost importance so few if any would care about what others think of them.

    When the term "regular" is applied in the fashon it was in this thread it is a misnomer. Regularity is strictly inner-jurisdictional. No Masonic body has any control over another. Masonic orders being sovereign and independent have the right and responsibility to determine for themselves their own standards of regularity.

    S&F,
     
  15. TCShelton

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    Sounds like the good stuff. Thanks Bro. Joyrock.
     
  16. joyrock

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    No problem Brother. :D
     
  17. LRG

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    May i ask, what or who is your definition of civic mainstream?
     
  18. joyrock

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    Male only segregated lodges (F&AM, AF&AM, PHA) with an emphasis on fellowship and community (civic) activities.
     
  19. LRG

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    Thank you for your clarification and judgement.
    We are a Very Proud Brotherhood with spirtual order, a large dedication to fellowship and brotherlylove with a huge workmanship within the GLight.
     
  20. joyrock

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    No problem.
     

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