Do the Muslim's can become FM?

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  1. Lyric'sMaster

    Lyric'sMaster Registered User

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    So my question is simple: "Do the peopple who belong to Islamic religion also can become a FM?"
    Please amswer without ofending...

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  2. Lyric'sMaster

    Lyric'sMaster Registered User

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    Once one bro said me yes, but at all i like to know details...

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  3. widows son

    widows son Premium Member

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    Any man, free born, of the mature age, sound judgement, strict morals and under the tongue of good rapport, and who professes a belief in a benevolent supreme being can become a Freemason. Allah is but one name of the deity.
     
  4. dfreybur

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    Yes. There have been Muslim brothers for centuries. A Muslim brother attended my degrees, though typical in Masonry it was several years before I learned what his religion is. For that matter I have no way to tell if he was the only Muslim brother present at my degrees. I have attended at least one degree with the candidate being obligated on his family Glorious Koran. That brother is now progressing through the line in one of my lodges.
     
  5. Michael Hatley

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    The man who first tapped me for our progressive line was a Muslim man who was WM of our lodge, for the second time.

    Short answer - definitely.
     
  6. Aeelorty

    Aeelorty Registered User

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    Absolutely, there are plenty
     
  7. widows son

    widows son Premium Member

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    In some countries where Islamic
    Fundamentalism is prevalent or involved with the government, Freemasonry is banned outright, as to them it is involved in the "Jewish/Zionist" plot. Smh
     
  8. Lyric'sMaster

    Lyric'sMaster Registered User

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    yea right, in my country is multi etnic but if i get into fm, and i need to become, i must hide my stay, coz there is that mentality, coz if i tell to smone what i am he will think i am a jew or i am an unbeliveber in god, or whatever else, realy is very dificult...
     
  9. jvarnell

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    Yes they can be a Freemason to us as Masons and they maybe in there hart, but if they believe that the Quran is infallible they can not follow it and let us be Christian, Jewish, Hindu ... not convert to Islam. This was made clear in 635ad when Mohammed beheaded everyone in his own army if they did not call him Profit which was about 1/3 of it. I hope this doesn't affind anyone but what I have said it is history and the way I take it personally.
     
  10. Lyric'sMaster

    Lyric'sMaster Registered User

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    I think we live in 21'th centry and the modern world is just begin, i am a modern muslim, and like a modern citizen i respect every faith, i travel all the time and i got very much friends in all europe, i know more than 7 lenguages and that maks me privileged everyware so i want to say that in Balkans or Specialy by us Albanians coz im Albanian from Macedonia, amd we see the world in deferend eye, there are living jewes, catholic, christian's, muslims, but we live together and even one apple of eat we make 5 peaces and we eat together, even and freemasonry is free and everyware in Albania, when u come there u see very deferent world, balkan calls us The Pearl of Europe... or the little israel of ballkan...

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  11. Lyric'sMaster

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    understand u very good, so all i wana say is that i need to adapte with respected people and i want to be respected, do not take so personaly this reply i just wana be clear at deference of the of other nations... thanks for good understanding...

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  12. jvarnell

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    I base my opinions on a Ex friend that when he came back to town after graduating college and told me our friend ship was a Tquiyya and Kitman, and if I convert to Islam we will stay friends. This is when I started investigating Islam to see what this mint to me. I have read the Qurain and Hadith both in English so there can be some translation problems. So this is why my personal view of Islam is the way it is. If any form of lying is acceptable for any reason how can you believe anything. I wish I was not so cynical but I thought back then I had a Muslim friend. When one of my study's lead to the next and to the next I could not believe what was in the text.

    I love my Bro's. I will do anything for them, it is only that little tidbit of knowledge that makes me wonder can I trust a Muslim to do the same because I am a Chirstian and will never deny Chirst to death. No one human is perfect and Knowledge colors our thought.
     
  13. dfreybur

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    That happens under any oppressive regime so it's not the Islam part that's to blame. It's the fundamentalism part. There are Christian fundamentalist sects that ban their members from Masonry. You name the religion and it's possible to find fundies in it that cause problems so it's not unique to the JCI family either.

    Some Masons like to claim Masonry is descended by the Knights Templar. The Knights Templar were wiped out by religious leaders and secular leaders merging their powers improperly and taking those powers much too far. That's very much a parallel situation to modern Masonry being persecuted by modern religious leaders and secular leaders merging their powers improperly and taking those powers much too far.

    Atheist dictators do the same. Again the problem is not with a religious choice but with authorities becoming oppressive and abusive.
     
  14. widows son

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    dfreybur, you are correct, and I should of stated that. Thank you for the clarification.
     
  15. DJGurkins

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    This is one of the many reasons I enjoy Freemasonry. Many people of different beliefs able to come together as brothers. So mote it be.

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  16. Lyric'sMaster

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    Yea! Masonry is greate, have greate people, and greate visions to make people batter, i hope ill find my way sun to enjoy and to adopte myself like a FM... Hope dies last, but never dies.
     
  17. BryanMaloney

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    That's probably more of a political issue. Germany banned Freemasonry from the mid-1930s until defeat in WWII, even though it officially courted certain Christian denominations.
     
  18. BryanMaloney

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    If you have such reservations, how can you accept Muslim Freemasons? One either must accept that Muslims can be full Freemasons or reject it and act accordingly, there is no honorable middle ground. Not all Muslims accept all the Hadith, and interpretation of the Hadith can vary widely among those who do accept a given Hadith. One might as well say that one has read the Bible and all Apocrypha and concluded that one can't trust Christians, even though no Christian group accepts all the Apocrypha as being on par with the Bible.
     
  19. BryanMaloney

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    What about Verses 2:62, 29:46, and others?

    If Islam is so antithetical to Freemasonry, it is your moral obligation to call for its ejection. If it is not your moral obligation to demand its objection, then it must not be antithetical.
     
  20. AnthonyPomilia357

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    Having a belief in Deity, your faith is well founded. Arise, and your.....umm...never mind. ;)

    Master Mason from Metamora/Hadley Lodge No. 210 of the GL of MI
     

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