Duncan's vs Monitor vs Nizzarindi

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  1. Julian Burns

    Julian Burns Registered User

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    I am wondering about the different books and why there isn't a standard for ritual for all masons? In my lodge we used the Duncan, in Indiana where i visit often they use the Nizzardini. On certain parts for the 2nd degree we would use the Monitor for long form instruction. Thoughts and comments are appreciated, am I always seeking more light in Masonry.
     
  2. Elexir

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    The easy answer is that diffrent people have diffrent ideas about how freemasonry should be and how it should be worked, wich degrees should be involved etc.. There are also a number of diffrent masonic cultures that you need to take into account.
     
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  3. Brother JC

    Brother JC Vigilant Staff Member

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    Centuries of ritual variation. The fact that US grand lodges keep a standard ritual within themselves is slightly odd, considering how the “mother” grand lodges allow their lodges to choose. UGLE has over fifty variations, a dozen of which are in regular use. Some rituals will only be found in a single lodge.
     
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  4. Elexir

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    We also use a standard ritual here in Sweden that we are forbidden to even try to modify ourself. Any change must come from the GL.
     
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  5. Julian Burns

    Julian Burns Registered User

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    Does that standard apply to all lodges in Sweden?
     
  6. Elexir

    Elexir Registered User

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    All lodges under the Grand lodge of Sweden (swedish order of freemasons).
    The GL of Finland has lodges in sweden and I dont know how their rules are regarding rituals.
     
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  7. Winter

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    If everyone used the same ritual, the Grand College of Rites wouldn't have anything to do! :D

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  8. coachn

    coachn Coach John S. Nagy Premium Member

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    When the GL of Florida formed, the ritual creators had their pick from several rituals. They picked the parts they liked from the various rituals offered and even changed some parts that were unlike any of those they were picking from.
     
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  9. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 Site Benefactor

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    Lol!
    Geez.....
     
  10. JamestheJust

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    It still surprises me that GLs that admit to not having the genuine secrets can be so bold as to edit rituals.
     
  11. Winter

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    First, you'd need to define what you consider the "genuine secrets" and then how a GL evolving its ritual (as every GL has done for centuries) relates to it.

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  12. coachn

    coachn Coach John S. Nagy Premium Member

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    You're wasting your keyboard strokes on this one Bro.
     
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  13. coachn

    coachn Coach John S. Nagy Premium Member

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    More common practice than you might imagine.
     
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  14. Glen Cook

    Glen Cook G A Cook Site Benefactor

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    You’re PHA? I know of no state GL which uses Duncan’s (that’s not a criticism, just an observation).

    UGLE has over 80 actively worked rituals, not counting minor variations.
     
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  15. coachn

    coachn Coach John S. Nagy Premium Member

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    The question led me to believe probably "yes".
    Yep. Lester's LTTE is another "reference" used by non-MS organizations.
    Scotland may have even more.
     
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  16. c j thomas

    c j thomas Registered User

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    I am from OK, and we use Lesters Look to the East but here in NC they use Nizzardini. Kinda cool I also have the Duncan.
     
  17. Mark Stockdale

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    We do indeed have more variations in Scotland, as each lodge decides their own ritual, as long as certain key parts are included. It is part of what makes visiting so interesting here, as you never know what you are going to see. With over 1000 lodges, you see a lot of minor differences, and then occasionally you see something completely different and think WOW.

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