Grand Lodge Reresentative of India visit a MMs degree @ Arlington 438

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  1. rhitland

    rhitland Founding Member Premium Member

    A few Brothers and I were at Arlington 438 the other night helping in a Masters degree and we where blessed by a Brother visiting from the GL of India with his son. I wanted to share the pic with you his apron and jewell are very nice. He gave a quick lecture also on the diffrences in the degree and signs it was an unbelievable stroke of luck and a real treat.

    Well it would not let me edit the title or I could not figure it out but by now you all should be used to my atrocious spelling :( sorry
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  2. TCShelton

    TCShelton Founding Member Premium Member

    Sucks I missed that.:beer:
  3. scottmh59

    scottmh59 Registered User

    sounds like it was a great night,wish i was there
  4. owls84

    owls84 Moderator Premium Member

    But wait there's MORE. He came to Ft. Worth 148 last night to watch 2 Fellowcraft Degrees. Really cool experience to sit in Lodge with the Brothers (his son was there as well).
  5. JTM

    JTM "Just in case" Premium Member

    that's pretty cool.

    question: what do they put on the altar in india?
  6. david918

    david918 Premium Member

    Here is an article by a friend of mine from India.

    Multiple VSLs in Lodge.
    By Tofique Fatehi
    Greetings from India.

    Almost every Lodge in India - irrespective of which constitution it belongs to - has 5 Volumes of Sacred Law placed open on the Altar while the Lodge is open. They are: Geeta,Koran,Zend-Avesta,Granth-Sahib and the Bible. And yes - they are refered to as Volumes of the Sacred Law- note the plural.

    And there are 5 officers at the District level: the Bearer of Geeta, the Koran-Bearer, the Avesta-Bearer, the Granth Bearer and the Bearer of the Bible - collectively known as the Bearers of the Volumes of Sacred Law. And if we have a candidate not 'subscribing' to any of these faiths - ours is a very multi-faith society - we ask him to bring his own Volume of Sacred Law - which is also then placed on the Altar and on which he takes his obligation. And seals the obligation 'in a manner most binding on his concience'. As beliefs vary with respect to how one reveres the VSL.

    And another thing - There are many non-English speaking Christians in the world for whom God is meaningless as it is in English language. I know many Christians here in India who pray in a Church to Ishwar, which is the Hindi word for God, and whose very Christian names are Yesudas (Yesu = Jesus, Das = worshipper) or Ishwardas etc. They are Baptised in the Church with those names. I even know of a couple of Arab Christians who know only Arabic and no English. I am sure they are praying to Allah, which again is the Arabic word for God. Al-Lah - The Divine. This word is more amorphous - like the VSL or the GAOTU. It is only a great misconception that Allah is the God of the Muslims that makes this a sacrilage. It is just that in Arabic God is called Allah. He is the same God as the God of Adam and Noah and Abraham and Moses and Jesus and Mohammad.

    Incidently - when I visited the Lodges in US - I took the Tylers Oath (Something unknown here in India) on the VSL which was the Bible. I also attended a 3rd Degree work in a Lodge where the Bible, on which the Candidate had taken his 3 obligations was presented to him after raising, having been signed ('autographed') by all those present. When it came to taking my signature, they were a bit hesitant. Then the WM asked me if it would please me to sign the Bible, only if I didn't mind, and I gladly did so with great satisfaction, and also a great appreciation of the gesture of the WM in asking my approval before I signed it.

    Tofique Fatehi
    Mumbai, India.
  7. scottmh59

    scottmh59 Registered User

    very interesting..thanks for sharing
  8. JTM

    JTM "Just in case" Premium Member

    great post.
  9. John Schnitz

    John Schnitz Premium Member

    Thank You, My Brother that was very touching . That is what Masonary is all about.:sc:
  10. nightjmper

    nightjmper Registered User

    This was a Great string! The information was fantastic and rekindled a fire in me for enlightenment.

    Thank you!

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