Make Room For A New GL in Texas

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  1. bupton52

    bupton52 Moderator Premium Member

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    We have the pleasure of yet another GL being formed in the Great State of Texas. Your thoughts?
     

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  2. japool

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    How can they get away with that?


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  3. bupton52

    bupton52 Moderator Premium Member

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    Nobody stops them.

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  4. bupton52

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    They just..........do it.

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  5. vangoedenaam

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    You can roll your own if you want. Just dont expect to be regular


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  6. bupton52

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    Got some more pics to share. 1797466_10152011067757132_175783937088978827_n.jpg 10359514_10152011068452132_5106846343050393631_n.jpg 10373791_10152011068302132_4794247626006291874_n.jpg
     
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    The guy in the middle is Rick Wells, the one that lied to the UGLE to become a member of Internet Lodge #9659 and subsequently gain admittance into a lodge in Massachusetts, if I'm not mistaken. The guy on the right also lied about being a member of Internet Lodge #9659 and claimed to have been named Provincial Grand Master of the East Lancashire District of the UGLE. 10322835_715205565209772_7461228461837638199_n.jpg
     
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    what's a praise dancer?
     
  10. jjjjjggggg

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    I am curious as to why it seems most clandestine lodges in America exist in Texas, and predominantly in the black community? I ask this purely from ignorance and true interest.

    Do other countries/territories deal with this same issue? I know France seems to be the home to co-masonry and is considered irregular by American lodges.


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  11. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    Interesting, these guys are the modern day John Jones of bogus masonry. The other guy is Weston Jarvis. Did they create this new grand lodge?
     
  12. MarkR

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    Texas isn't as bad as Illinois and New York. Check out http://www.thephylaxis.org/bogus/bogusgrandlodges.php to see the bogus grand lodges by state.
     
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  13. chrmc

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    Amazing. What I don't get is what do they get out of it? Is there money in it so they are something as simple as a con artist, or is it the prestige of the degrees or?
     
  14. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    There is definitely money involved. I was reading somewhere that Jarvis gets paid $5.00 from each member for his personal salary. They also charge you money to vote and sell other things. It adds up.

    Some of these guys if not most are con artists. Some could probably never join a recognized regular lodge due to their criminal history. Then others see that some titles are easier to obtain if they play the game.
     
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  15. BryanMaloney

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    They make sure everything LOOKS so very grand, don't they?
     
  16. jjjjjggggg

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    All the pageantry, costumes, and jewelry in the world will never make a man better. It's unfortunate that folks fall for this, lord knows I have a time or two.


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  18. Glen Cook

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    Well, recognized Masons have some of the same ordens hunger which motivate these men. We also clamour after rank, position and the honors of men. Our GL regalia in many cases is identical to that portrayed here. One wonders if "that for which we have so long wrought" is a title. Lodges are divided or even fail because of competing egos, like the irregular grand lodges.

    And, they have some really cool names.
     
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  19. MoonlightMadness357

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    The major issues I have is that they are one profiting off the name of our charitable organization and secondly the misrepresented actions and acts of the clandestine create the ill-deserved rumors and urban myths that are associated with our time honored organization. I do believe that unity between all of "us regular masons" both PHA and GWA (George Washington Affiliated, a term coined by another brother on here that I particularly like) as well as all other lodges in good standing with the UGLE is required to bring an end to this attack on our name. Yes I am a relatively new MM but and to propose a sort of central office of Masonic records may seem ludicrous to some but with technology today we have to be able to better validate one's traveling documents and hold each other accountable for the state of the craft.
     
  20. BryanMaloney

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    Here's the problem, Bro. Lovett: Nobody in the USA "owns" the term "Freemasonry", "Masonic", or associated indicia. They aren't trademarked, and the barn door's been open far too long to seek trademark protection. There is no legal definition of "legitimate" Freemason. As private associations, the only laws that could apply would be fraud, and those are tricky when it comes to establishing historical legitimacy. So long as the claims are vague enough, there's a lot of skirting that can be done. Solution? Education is all we have.
     
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