Make Room For A New GL in Texas

Discussion in 'General Freemasonry Discussion' started by bupton52, May 24, 2014.

  1. Glen Cook

    Glen Cook G A Cook Site Benefactor

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    Of course, no one condones selling of the degrees, i.e., making a profit from them. Yet, in AASR-SJ, we charge for the 33. In UGLE we charge for promotion to past rank.

    One wonders how much responsibility the GLs of the CGMNA bear responsibility for the particular problem of bogus GLs in the African American community, as we in the State GLs labeled all of them clandestine, an error still extant. If all are clandestine (to the majority view), then why does it matter which clandestine group I join?

    In CGMNA GLs, there is a list of lodges available to make decisions about who to admit. Remember, not all GLs issue cards.

    Additionally, the root problem pointed out by some is that the petitioner doesn't know what's legit and what is clandestine. A central repository won't do any good.

    UGLE isn't the grand arbiter of regularity. Indeed, they recognize a different GL in Italy than CGMNA GLs. Many CGMNA GLs have not suspended recognition with GLNF, as the Home GLs have done.

    Oh, I am actually sojourning in Maryland this weekend.
     
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  2. crono782

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    So there's no way to smack the bogus ones down. Maybe a good plan B is to start campaigns by legit GLs trumpeting their legitimacy/superiority/etc. if you can't put the others down, outshine them maybe.


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  3. MoonlightMadness357

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    I agree with your statement and that's what is so frustrating about the situation. At some point in history there was no need to do this, everyone who was a mason could identify one another thru our means and it would be ok real was real and fake was fake now they have so much that they almost blur the lines of truth. Incorporated Fraternities and Sororities don't have these issues pretending only gets you so far you start your own chapter of Tau Kappa Epsilon or Kappa Alpha Psi you're getting sued. I guess it’s sad to me that the oldest of all fraternities can't do the same to protect its self
     
  4. MoonlightMadness357

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    Well brother welcome to Maryland in advance.
     
  5. Warrior1256

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    I can see why some people would be taken in because the photos look impressive. Looks can definately be deceiving.
     
  6. jjjjjggggg

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    If I remember right, there is a term in the New Testament about white-washed walls... all sharp and snazzy on the outside, rotten and corrupt on the inside. I'll feel bad for the guys that for sucked in. Not only are they not legit when they think they are, they got extra steps to go trough should they decide to go the right route.
     
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  7. Kyle Samuel

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    When you say extra steps, what are you talking about? Just wondering. Also i have to say if they are not legit what are they teaching?
     
  8. crono782

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    Extra steps as in the process of being "healed".
     
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  9. psargent

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    Nor would anyone in a lodge that's not legally constituted (regular) be able to join appendant bodies such as the SR, YR, or Shrine. Meaning if they do so wish they have to start over and learn what's proper.
     
  10. Glen Cook

    Glen Cook G A Cook Site Benefactor

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    There are irregular appendant bodies as well
     
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  11. Bro Mathews

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    Have any one heard of this lodge i cant find who there under New Hope lodge# 253 have any one heard of this lodge in Somerville, TX 77879
     
  12. MRichard

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    Only thing I could find was a facebook post where some guy said he was a member. Clandestine. There are New Hope lodges in both grand lodges in Texas but not in that city and with a different #.
     
  13. Bro Mathews

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    thanks
     
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  14. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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  15. Bro Mathews

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    i told a few of the guys that they was clandestine and they kinda got mad at me i was not doing it to be mean just wanted to help them buy letting them in on the truth.... did not go so well they start talking bad about prince hall
     
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  16. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    They need to know. Some in them might be in denial, some surely know, and the others are in the dark. But it takes about 5 minutes or less to find out the truth.
     
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  17. MBC

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    Oh that's too bad Bro Matt. Prince Hall Masonry may have some variations with other jurisdictions but they are not bad.
    Maybe I should have a contact with them and let them talking bad about the United Grand Lodge of England lol
     
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  18. Roy Vance

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    Maybe I should start my own GL. LOL.
     
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  19. Roy Vance

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    The extra steps mentioned is called "healing".
     
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  20. Glen Cook

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    In 2008, I had a clandestine lodge come to me with a request to have the lodge come into our jurisdiction. I said sure, let me get you petitions...
     

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