Masonic Education

[Alfred Taylor]

It's funny. I get on this site as a last resort because I can't get anybody to even call me back about information to attend a lodge and now this?? Highly disheartening you don't know me or my story and from the little bit I have learned I know that this isn't what we are about.

 

[Alfred Taylor]

Well, if you are a Freemason you most certainly should understand what we are talking about. Suspicious indeed!

Can you see this picture??

 

[Ripcord22A]

It's funny. I get on this site as a last resort because I can't get anybody to even call me back about information to attend a lodge and now this?? Highly disheartening you don't know me or my story and from the little bit I have learned I know that this isn't what we are about.

Alfred- i highly suggest you edit that post and take out the profanity. But anyways what he means by suspicious is that one of the first things you are taught is how to identify a brother in darkness and in light. And your asking for him to divulge masonic secrets.
As for not being able to get some one to call you back...dont wait, find a lodge and show up on meeting night with ur demit paperwork and identification. They will examine you. You are a Master Mason correct?

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[Keith C]

Late to the party here, but I will give it a go. When you were raised you were imparted with means of recognition for one to know another is a Master Mason. The examination consists of first showing that you have a valid, up to date dues card from a lodge under a Grand Lodge that is in amity with the Grand Lodge of the Lodge you are visiting (The secretary has a book of all Grand Lodges which share Fraternal Relationships.) Next , in PA at least, you will go into the Examining room, prove you are a Master Mason by knowing the forms of recognition, and then swear an oath (in PA) and obligation that you are indeed a Master Mason, at which point you will be admitted to the lodge.

I am not surprised you were not aware of this process, as it was never told to me until I was at the meeting where it was exemplified.

 

[Alfred Taylor]

I HAVENT BEEN ABLE TO FIND THE DETAILS TO BE ABLE TO "SHOW" up to a lodge.

I haven't asked him to divulge anything I specifically just want to know what it means for them to "examine me".

The things I've been told were go to a lodge produce my ID and dues card and I'm good never heard anything of an "examination".

How does that mean I'm asking for him to divulge anything???

 

[Alfred Taylor]

Late to the party here, but I will give it a go. When you were raised you were imparted with means of recognition for one to know another is a Master Mason. The examination consists of first showing that you have a valid, up to date dues card from a lodge under a Grand Lodge that is in amity with the Grand Lodge of the Lodge you are visiting (The secretary has a book of all Grand Lodges which share Fraternal Relationships.) Next , in PA at least, you will go into the Examining room, prove you are a Master Mason by knowing the forms of recognition, and then swear an oath (in PA) and obligation that you are indeed a Master Mason, at which point you will be admitted to the lodge.

I am not surprised you were not aware of this process, as it was never told to me until I was at the meeting where it was exemplified.

I appreciate that. Now I understand. That's all I wanted to know! Due to me being raised in a military lodge overseas I honestly haven't had the chance to sit in an open lodge and unfortunately responses like warriors caused me to not affiliate over the years in California but now that I have moved to Texas I felt led to get active again and I run into the same problem yet again which is highly disheartening but that's neither here nor there.

Thank you for answering my question though.

 

[Alfred Taylor]

Alfred- i highly suggest you edit that post and take out the profanity. But anyways what he means by suspicious is that one of the first things you are taught is how to identify a brother in darkness and in light. And your asking for him to divulge masonic secrets.
As for not being able to get some one to call you back...dont wait, find a lodge and show up on meeting night with ur demit paperwork and identification. They will examine you. You are a Master Mason correct?

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Where did I ask him to divulge any secrets??

 

[Keith C]

I appreciate that. Now I understand. That's all I wanted to know! Due to me being raised in a military lodge overseas I honestly haven't had the chance to sit in an open lodge and unfortunately responses like warriors caused me to not affiliate over the years in California but now that I have moved to Texas I felt led to get active again and I run into the same problem yet again which is highly disheartening but that's neither here nor there.

Thank you for answering my question though.

No problem. I could see the disconnect in communications. Warrior assumed you were seeking knowledge of the means of recognition (which of course can't be discussed outside of Lodge), yet you were seeking knowledge of the Process, which wasn't 100% clear.

 

[Alfred Taylor]

Well I won't be asking anymore questions that's for sure. But before I stop can someone assist me in how to post pictures to this forum?

 

[Alfred Taylor]

Didn't know how to ask

No problem. I could see the disconnect in communications. Warrior assumed you were seeking knowledge of the means of recognition (which of course can't be discussed outside of Lodge), yet you were seeking knowledge of the Process, which wasn't 100% clear.

I understand what you're saying. I honestly didn't know how to ask that question without divulging anything myself or to even come across like I was trying to have another brother divulge any secrets. I know nothing of the process and I felt like this was the best place for me to start but I guess I'll just have to wait and see. This feeling of being uncomfortable isn't worth it

 

[Keith C]

Well I won't be asking anymore questions that's for sure. But before I stop can someone assist me in how to post pictures to this forum?

Oh, don't go away. We all can learn something from one another and we are all working on our ashlars!

To post a photo it has to be hosted on the web, on a site like photobucket or google photos then you link the URL to the photo by hitting the icon on top of the text box that looks like a picture of the sun over some mountains.

 

[Alfred Taylor]

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Oh, don't go away. We all can learn something from one another and we are all working on our ashlars!

To post a photo it has to be hosted on the web, on a site like photobucket or google photos then you link the URL to the photo by hitting the icon on top of the text box that looks like a picture of the sun over some mountains.

That's way too complicated right now. I was simply just trying to post a picture of my dues card. Don't really see any other way of proving myself without divulging much. I can honestly admit that I probably haven't learned as much as I should but I've been trying. You can only learn soo much on your own. I've just been trying to read and re read my rit and the materials I had going through my degrees from EA to FC then MM but I feel I should know more as a MM I just haven't had the opportunity.

 

[goomba]

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Here is the backside of the brothers dues card. I have not posted the front for privacy reasons. This information was provided to me by him and I am posting it with his permission.

 

[Alfred Taylor]

Thank y

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Here is the backside of the brothers dues card. I have not posted the front for privacy reasons. This information was provided to me by him and I am posting it with his permission.

Thank you

 

[Warrior1256]

Alfred- i highly suggest you edit that post and take out the profanity. But anyways what he means by suspicious is that one of the first things you are taught is how to identify a brother in darkness and in light. And your asking for him to divulge masonic secrets.

Yes, this is what made me suspicious.

Warrior assumed you were seeking knowledge of the means of recognition (which of course can't be discussed outside of Lodge), y

Yes, this is what I thought.

Due to me being raised in a military lodge overseas I honestly haven't had the chance to sit in an open lodge

I'm sorry Brother but, not being aware that you had never sat in lodge, I hope you can understand why I was suspicious as how to recognize another Freemason is one of the first things that I was taught. I was shown how to do this right at the conclusion of my MM degree.

Let's just start over?

 

[Alfred Taylor]

Sure. That's fair

 

[BullDozer Harrell]

no. The lodge I was in is overseas so I was demited into the holding lodge in the jurisdiction of oaklahoma until I find a lodge in my area to demit to.

When do you demit into a Lodge???

 

[Alfred Taylor]

As I earlier learned you petition to join a lodge and you demit out of a lodge.

 

[Ripcord22A]

It sounds like MWPHGLoOK put all Demitted Brothers in what they call "a holding lodge" untill such a time that they reaffiliate with a lodge!

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[Alfred Taylor]

I believe that's what they do. I'm not sure. Wish I would've known that to begin with I might've tried to handle things a little differently.