Montana Grand Master Removed

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  1. scialytic

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    I use the term "We" loosely...it shall be "We" soon... :)
     
  2. KSigMason

    KSigMason Traveling Templar Site Benefactor

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    While I have my opinions on this matter, due to personal knowledge, I must say I should stay out of it and let the wheels turn. I am going to back out of the discussion for a bit.
     
  3. SeeKer.mm

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    We allow traditional observance lodges in CT too.....we are not irregular by any means....I don't understand the BS that some people strum up in the name of...what?....drama?.....
     
  4. Traveling Man

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    Could it be "the breaking of tradition"? That would be their perception of "tradition". Lest we forget there are those that hold steadfast, "that there not be any innovation in masonry", without a clue as to what "Traditional Observance", is or might be. We must remember that we all think masonry "should be" that which we were taught, within our limited perceptions.

    Or as I originally stated a lonnnng time ago, there will be those that will contest the formation of these types of lodges, fearing the loss of control!
     
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  5. Frater Cliff Porter

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    Very true.

    Speaking two years in a row to the Conference of GM's of North America I was actually heartened by our leadership. The majority were hardworking and loving men who desired to see the Craft grow, progress, and fulfill the lives of its members.

    Some, a very few, but still some, would rather be the captain of a sinking ship than a sailor on a healthy one and will drag a ship down versus surrender what they fell is control.

    There are other issues with the above scenario. Allegations if misplaced monies, etc.

    Again, for we should guard our gates, guard our Grand Lodges through votes and active participating and keep our Montana Brothers in our prayers and thoughts.
     
  6. BryanMaloney

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    If Masonry is transmitted solely by word of mouth, then how can there be any records of "traditional observance" that differs from how things are done currently? It is that simple. If it is truly all by word of mouth, then what is currently done is the only way it can be done--if everything truly is 100% solely by word of mouth.
     
  7. Traveling Man

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    I remember playing a game in school where the teacher whispered in ones ear, each student was required then in turn to do the same, until the end. The last student then was to say out-loud what they had heard. It doesn't require much imagination to figure out what happened. I say this in response to the above statement.

    The other item I would like to suggest is that if one has never attended a lodge or lodges where this all began, then how can one say what is proper? And attending "a few lodges somewhere else" doesn't cut the mustard. Maybe this is sidetracking off the original thread and might have to be moved to the TO thread, but I'm still trying to get over the "elitist note" there, after all we are an elitist group <VBG>.
     
  8. chrmc

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    While that may hold true with regards to the actual wording of the ritual there are plenty of things in masonry that have changed. When you look at old pictures you'd see brethren meeting dressed in their finest outfit, drinking allowed in lodge and I'm certain they didn't have electricity. Those all differ from how things are done today.
     
  9. Traveling Man

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    Neither hold true; you must remember it's only in the teetotaling U.S. where the drinking is frowned upon. The working (and wording) ritual varies greatly between these United States, in Europe even more-so. To make such wild assertions is misleading at best.
     
  10. Ronald D. Martin

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    Worth Repeating

    I decided to read through these posts again after reading the letter. I felt the Brother Porter's sagacity in this post was worth the second post of it. May the Brothers in Montana flourish from the shadows of these incidents...
     
  12. Henry

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    What I find interesting is that the aGS involved is trolling this board whilst he is supposed to be working for the GL of MT
     
  13. apursell

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    I am saddened to see Montana's reputation appears as this outside the state. I had not heard of any of these "incidents".

    I did have the "pleasure" of attending the "Tribunal" as part of the Defense Co-Council for Duffy and I have my own opinions of what I saw first hand; of which I will keep to myself and not post online. PGM Tom Duffy is a good man and a mentor to many in our lodge and around the state.

    Aaron Pursell, Secy
    Euclid Lodge No. 58
     
  14. Charles Coward

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    Montana List This web page lists some emails which were supposed to be spread throughout the craft but then sent an order of silence by the sitting GM. In effort to observe more light I would look on as the masonic calendar progresses for further posts. The masons in Montana do appreciate and need your prayers and help. Grand Lodge is only empowered by the craft, and through the craft a wrong will be righted.
     
  15. Mac

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    Brethren, there are men on both sides of this issue claiming that those involved on their respective sides are good men, mentors, ideal masons, etc.

    Both sides might be right. Both sides might be wrong. The events that have taken place are proof enough that this is not a black and white issue.

    What I know for sure is this: acidic conversation such as this does nothing to benefit the Craft. It only points out just how human we are, and how prone to such follies we may be.
     

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