Nuts and bolts of Texas Freemasonry

[Winter]

Winter, I thought you were done?
Nothing you said is correct..
The creation of the Grand Lodge of the Republic of Texas is the work of men ie individuals. Example/ Fact… Gl of Lousianna chartered our Holland Lodge, then called Holland Lodge no. 3 I think. Holland and the other lodges gave back their charters to the grand Lodge of Louisiana, at that moment Holland was without a charter. The men in those lodges voted to create GL of the Republic and subsequently got charters issued to the then existing Lodges. Which is how Holland Lodge becomes Holland Lodge no1. You implied that some how the corporate entity known as GL of ROT went from the jurisdiction of the masons who created it to the people of Texas, I’ll shut up and get a drivers license if you can prove that.
The state created in 1845 did NOT abolish the then existing “state”, (here meaning a group of legal voters, land owners.) Did the government go away, sure, but the state remained..and still remains.
This right here is the whole point of the previous conversation.

Mark, I haven’t looked into the other places / jurisdictions and your state/ states are a bit tricky because of the Northwest Ordinance…
But I would encourage a review with a sharp eye on where the REAL right to vote is.

Happy to continue now that you've actually posted what you wanted to discuss.

You implied that some how the corporate entity known as GL of ROT went from the jurisdiction of the masons who created it to the people of Texas, I’ll shut up and get a drivers license if you can prove that.
The state created in 1845 did NOT abolish the then existing “state”, (here meaning a group of legal voters, land owners.) Did the government go away, sure, but the state remained..and still remains.
This right here is the whole point of the previous conversation.

I have no need to explain that as I never claimed that that the Grand Lodge of the Republic of Texas went to the people of Texas. The Grand Lodge was and is an independent body that is not tied to the Republic or State of Texas other than that it resides in the same location and is peopled by its residents. My post is correct whether you chose to accept it or not. Your attempt to apply SovCit logic to Masonic jurisprudence will be as successful here as it has been in the legal realm. That is to say not at all.

I still doubt you'll get a DL.

 

[Dennis Lamberth]

Now we’re getting somewhere..
I agree, Grand Lodge is independent but it does hold a charter. Who granted the Charter?
It is this group of people that constitute a “state” in the “constitutional sense” and several of these groups constitute the “American Confederacy “ as stated by Chief Justice Marshall 1806

 

[Winter]

Now we’re getting somewhere..
I agree, Grand Lodge is independent but it does hold a charter. Who granted the Charter?
It is this group of people that constitute a “state” in the “constitutional sense” and several of these groups constitute the “American Confederacy “ as stated by Chief Justice Marshall 1806

Do you even listen to yourself? You make a false accusation and when I correct you, you act as if I am agreeing with your nonsensical argument. It is no mystery who grants a charter for the formation of a new grand lodge. The three Lodges were from the Grand Lodge of Louisiana. They applied to that body to form a new Grand Lodge. You are attempting to make it unnecessarily convoluted to confuse the issue. Who granted the charter for the Grand Lodge of the Republic of Texas is not a mystery. And I guarantee that your current Grand Lodge of Texas has this information. But I am guessing you didn't like their answer either. What exactly is it you are hoping to achieve with this silliness.