I found the first 25 minutes of this to be Very revealing.
Catherine Austin Fitts: The Looting Of America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP6rny-E1Cw&feature=youtu.be
Yes you can find anyone saying what you want to hear. One of the principals America was founded on was personal property. The only way someone can loot something is if they are steeling from someone else. Before Teddy Roosevelt the Fedral government was not alowed to own land it was the state. Taxes are how companies pay for there use of there own property. They are taxed on productivity. The land was sold and granted to the people who who now own it and use it for there products. Nothing looted.
Banks use money of depositors and investers to loan to others so the loanies are paying the loaners and banks to administer it. No looting.
When you think of both of these concepts together I see no looting of anything. I see someone (Bilateral) or something (Markets) matching up offers and bids and getting paid for that service. When you listen to these people saying things like this you see the media socializing a process because they are envyous and want a peice. Everything illegal in the process already has a law agenst it so it can be stoppd and points at who is to blame for breaking the law. And with this you have to have an entity called a corperation so that you will know who has the final say and goes to jail. With out a corp. there is no responcable indivaule to point at when a problem arises.
This is where we get into the problem the thread is talking about subsidies. Since the Government get into the process that stops productivity because of the perseption of looting from us they have to give subsidies to keep the thing going they have stopped.
That is like Bush and Oboma got in the way of the natrual process of bankruptcy in tha last crisis and let it happen and it would have worked out by now. But Labor did not want there contracts to go before a Judge and the Managment wanted to save face that they knew what they were doing, they had to not allow bankrupcy. A real bankrupcy would have pointed out that Managment was just giving labor everything they ask for because it was the easy way out.
With all that said you have to look at the whole forest and not just one tree the meida wants you to look at. Without pointing to that one tree the meida would have no store. Most people will just go to sleep when a bankruptcy is adjudicated and not look at how not to do things and it is not just Labor, Managment or Subsidies it is the metaling of people trying to fix a socalled crisis.
Looting = Tree
Subsidies = Tree
Car company = Tree
Managment = Tree
Labor = Tree
Tree + Tree + Tree + Tree = forest (I know I left out trees but this is an example)
The problem is the government making the dession which tree is crooked or straight and not just adjudicating the law breakers.