Visiting With Prince Hall

Discussion in 'Freemasonry In Texas' started by Blake Bowden, Jan 23, 2017.

  1. Bro. David F. Hill

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    I have met with quite a few Brothers from the Grand Lodge of Texas and I have been impressed with the reception that I received. Not once did any of them show any un-masonic attitudes towards me or Prince Hall masonry. I tip my hat to PM Stewart for his honesty for being able to acknowledge his past but also show that it didn't keep him from changing his attitude as he traveled. We all have scars from our pasts but they don't determine where we are going. They only show where we have been.
     
  2. Kenneth NC Mason

    Kenneth NC Mason Registered User

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    It has been my experience as a NC Mason that visiting prince hall even in our state is a little bit tricky. Most visitation apparently happens in city areas, not rural. The Prince Hall GL website does not list the numbers for the masters and secretaries, only the DDGMs. Ours is the opposite.

    It gets rather frustrating when I've got to call a DDGM only to find out he's not the head over the district of the lodge I'd like to visit , and then be told I don't know what district that's in by the DDGM. It makes for quite a bunch of calls to make , just to find out if I'll even be accepted into their local lodge. Unfortunately; even though there is recognition I've been yelled at over the phone for a solid 30 minutes on more than one occasion by a particular Prince Hall AGL for wanting to visit lodges that are Prince Hall in NC....even in his district

    His question to me " Why do you find prince hall Masonry interesting ( and no this wasn't in a friendly tone )" ? And " Why on earth do you want to visit our lodges"?

    How about , it is steeped in tradition and history , they do tons of service for the community and their ritual is quite different than NC Mainstream ritual PLUS we have recognition. I've also heard more racial slurs then I care to count in my local lodge that I'm from about prince hall brothers, I want to prove some brethren in my lodge wrong as far as their actions by the love I choose to extend to ALL brethren , if that makes sense.

    Another avenue where things get tricky as far as my experience with prince hall has been finding out transportation to lodge meetings or degree work ( I can't drive due to a visual impairment)

    Recently , I've been invited to a district raising in Durham . That's 30 minutes from my campus. The master of the lodge is looking into people to get me there, dome hell or high water. He did advise me to check locally as well. So that's what I did. The local PH DDGM lives near my campus . I asked him if any of the members of his lodge or district were attending. He said no, which was fine. But then he said something that threw me for a loop . He told me to call the Grand Secretary for MWPHGLNC and ask him about finding transportation.....

    As much as I'm willing to try that I'd rather not run the risk of pissing any more Prince hall brothers off. But then again I'm not in Masonry to be a people pleaser

    I love fellowshipping with my prince hall brothers , I just wish it wasn't such a tough process to go visit.


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  3. Ripcord22A

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    Maybe you should. They might have a carpool set up. Its worth a try. Just call and introduce yourself and say you were inquiring about carpools to the district raising. There mught be a Bro coming right thru your area



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  4. BullDozer Harrell

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    Brother, i must counterpoint your opinion with all due respect. Even understanding that the State of Texas are politically of a Rebel persuasion, it's 2017 and we're well past the days of the Confederacy. Besides the issue went through both GLs successfully and there's no reason whatsoever that the process should be as bureaucratic as what I'm hearing about.
     
  5. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    Perception and reality are two different things. Brother Hill is probably a lot closer to the truth than most would like to admit. There is a reason that the process is bureaucratic and gives the lodge the option to decline visitation or sometimes the communication network breaks down. There are sides in both grand lodges that really don't care for the visitation process.

    I thought we were well past the days of the Confederacy as well but not everyone feels that way.
     
  6. BullDozer Harrell

    BullDozer Harrell Registered User

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    Duly noted.
     
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  7. Bloke

    Bloke Premium Member

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    Only one way to move beyond them: move beyond them....
     
  8. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    My lodge just visited a local PHA lodge and we got to witness a FC degree. Great experience. I created a Facebook group called the Bridge Builders and we will try to do at least quarterly visits to a PHA lodge if not more.
     
  9. Travelling Man91

    Travelling Man91 Registered User

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    Awesome !! Was there much difference bro ?
     
  10. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    Yes but mostly similar. The work is slightly different.
     
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  11. Alfred Taylor

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    Requested to join group
     
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  12. bupton52

    bupton52 Moderator Premium Member

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    Are you already a Freemason or looking to join? I believe that group is for members.


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  13. Alfred Taylor

    Alfred Taylor Registered User

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    I'm already a Freemason. My dues card has been posted on one of these threads. I can produce it again if need be??
     
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  14. bupton52

    bupton52 Moderator Premium Member

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    Naw. You are good.


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  15. BullDozer Harrell

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    Brother Taylor, i sent the contact information to your inbox. Call Brother Black.
     
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