Warrior1256
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Any thoughts on gay men being able to join Masonry? I know this topic has been hit on a lot but I work with a man that is gay and interested in Masonry. He's a Marine, upstanding guy but he is gay and has a partner. Would any of you object to allowing a gay man join? Would you be comfortable in that situation?
Same here.I'm heterosexual, but what business is it of anyone what two consenting adults do behind closed doors.
Without addressing the underlying issue, but only the rationale---we do inquire as to what occurs behind closed doors. Many jurisdictions limit the conduct between a Master Mason and another Master Mason's wife, even if consenting. I have seen a PGM suspended for just this conduct.Having a gay lodge brother or gay man petition a lodge. I'm heterosexual, but what business is it of anyone what two consenting adults do behind closed doors.
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Without addressing the underlying issue, but only the rationale---we do inquire as to what occurs behind closed doors. Many jurisdictions limit the conduct between a Master Mason and another Master Mason's wife, even if consenting. I have seen a PGM suspended for just this conduct.
Sexuality is the raw form of sensual and spiritual practices. There are lodges that rely more heavily on "Christian Ways" than the original ways of mysticism. The mastery that Christ wielded. It is long believed that Jesus had bisexual sensual relationships with his disciples and with Mary Magdalene. It is probable that this balanced energy in his body allowed it to raise to such level that he was then able to perform what seemed like "miracles". A man or woman's sensuality determines the level at which he or she attains self mastery.
Sleeping with another brothers ...daughter...is violation of you OB.
Guess there are a lot of unmasonic marriages out there, then.
I was thinking the same thing. My Son-in-Law was thinking about petitioning, if this is the case I better warn him off.
***snicker snicker***I was thinking the same thing. My Son-in-Law was thinking about petitioning, if this is the case I better warn him off.
I would say this is a issue that should be left up to the local Lodge unless there's a Grand Lodge rule or edict against it. But having said that it must also be pointed out that just because man meets the minimum qualifications to join the lodge doesn't mean he should automatically be admitted to Lodge. Freemasonry is not for everybody.Any thoughts on gay men being able to join Masonry? I know this topic has been hit on a lot but I work with a man that is gay and interested in Masonry. He's a Marine, upstanding guy but he is gay and has a partner. Would any of you object to allowing a gay man join? Would you be comfortable in that situation?
I would say this is a issue that should be left up to the local Lodge unless there's a Grand Lodge rule or edict against it. But having said that it must also be pointed out that just because man meets the minimum qualifications to join the lodge doesn't mean he should automatically be admitted to Lodge. Freemasonry is not for everybody.
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Totally agree. I just don't think that being gay in and of it's self should be a disqualifier.But having said that it must also be pointed out that just because man meets the minimum qualifications to join the lodge doesn't mean he should automatically be admitted to Lodge. Freemasonry is not for everybody.
I believe in having a strong Westgate if the local lodges do their job and protect the Westgate and only let in men that are worthey then things are fine. I'm tired of lodges taking the in men that meet the minimum qualifications and that have the cash in hand only to add members of the sake of adding to membership. It should be quality not quantity that matters. And if a gay man is found worthy then that is fine. But I do not agree that just because a man is gay he should automatically get a pass to join if he wants to because we do not want to look as if we're homophobic he should have to be held to the same standards as anybody else and be found worthy to join.Totally agree. I just don't think that being gay in and of it's self should be a disqualifier.
I'm not necessarily saying people are but in today's day and age and Society it seems like more and more they have to have a disqualification not to be accepted. Because if a person that is gay gets turned down for something in this case masonry and you don't have a big glaring disqualification then the critics are going holler that he was blackballed simply because he was gay. And that the institution of Freemasonry is homophobic.I don't think anyone is saying a gay man should get a pass on meeting requirements, brother. Quality over quantity? I couldn't agree more, sir.