I understand that the point I was trying to make is you will find people of every race in all of them
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Well down here in the good old state of Florida the MWUGLofFL PHA doesn't have any issue with black , white, red or yellow men joining as long as you bleed red your character is good and your money is green
I understood what you were saying. They are primarily Black. It is what it is. Not every clandestine lodge is that way though.
Great. Why are you comparing your grand lodge to a clandestine one?
If you take the time to read my post you will see I haven't compared my GL to any I was only stating that every Masonic organization I've come across had people of all races within them including the clandestine ones but since you brought it up I think my GL is second to NONE my brother
I did take the time to read it. All of your previous posts were about referring to a clandestine lodge as a particular color or race. Then I stated that I had no idea how a clandestine lodge chooses its members. Then you replied with how your grand lodge accepts men of all races. But if you say you were not, then I will accept that.
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No harm no foul brother!
Ripcord22A
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Ive never met a clandestine white mason....
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There are plenty.
Bloke
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I have
Lol jk
The Traveling Man
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Im confused on by what you mean when you say clandestine black lodges because from my understanding any man regardless of race can join any lodge if he is voted on favorably by the brethren that would include GL of state PHA even clandestine lodges I am a Prince Hall mason and I have sat in tiled lodge with many white brothers who where also Prince hall Mason further more I don't see how having a little fun doing a dance is giving away any secrets or violating ones MM oath and obligation[/QUOTE]
Brother, you read too deep into my message. First, in case you haven't saw my pics, I'm black, so I wasn't playing the race card. I stated that the Clandestine black lodges do it to because the average person who may see a group of black Brothers doing the walk on YouTube would probably assume that they are PHA. So I was simply stating that the Clandestine black lodges (as in IFAAM, PHO, etc) do it too (because of the videos on YouTube are in fact Not PHA). If this was a PHA board I would have omitted the "black" reference. But seeing as how most of the Brothers on this board aren't black, me saying Clandestine lodges could have lead them to believe that other Clandestine lodges do it. Clandestine could mean GOdF, Italy, or any other Clandestine Jurisdictions, but when I say Black Clandestine most Brothers will automatically make the association with IFAAM, PHO, JGJ, etc.... Since the camel walk, as far as I know, is not done by any of the mainstream Brothers, I wanted to be clear on who I was referring to when I stated Clandestine. My bad if you took it the wrong way Brother.... And you're right, any race can join any Jurisdiction. There are definitely white Brothers who belong to Prince Hall Lodges, as well as black Brothers (like myself) who belong to Mainstream Lodges.
Brother, you read too deep into my message. First, in case you haven't saw my pics, I'm black, so I wasn't playing the race card. I stated that the Clandestine black lodges do it to because the average person who may see a group of black Brothers doing the walk on YouTube would probably assume that they are PHA. So I was simply stating that the Clandestine black lodges (as in IFAAM, PHO, etc) do it too (because of the videos on YouTube are in fact Not PHA). If this was a PHA board I would have omitted the "black" reference. But seeing as how most of the Brothers on this board aren't black, me saying Clandestine lodges could have lead them to believe that other Clandestine lodges do it. Clandestine could mean GOdF, Italy, or any other Clandestine Jurisdictions, but when I say Black Clandestine most Brothers will automatically make the association with IFAAM, PHO, JGJ, etc.... Since the camel walk, as far as I know, is not done by any of the mainstream Brothers, I wanted to be clear on who I was referring to when I stated Clandestine. My bad if you took it the wrong way Brother.... And you're right, any race can join any Jurisdiction. There are definitely white Brothers who belong to Prince Hall Lodges, as well as black Brothers (like myself) who belong to Mainstream Lodges.[/QUOTE]
There are also whites In international and 4 letter PHA that's why I wrote the post stating even the clandestine lodges except anyone regardless of race there is no such thing as a black or white lodge even before Prince Hall there was a brother by the name Angelo Solomon who was initiated past and raised in what you refer to for lack of a better word mainstream lodge look him up
No such thing as a white lodge. Surely, you jest.
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The Black guy on the front row is an infamous clandestine freemason by the name of Weston Jarvis. Unless he has fooled some real freemasons again, I would imagine that these guys are all clandestine. I can't say for sure.
The Traveling Man
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No such thing as a white lodge. Surely, you jest.[/QUOTE]
Indeed there are whites in those Lodges, and I've seen them. When speaking of Mainstream and PHA I don't refer to black and white Lodges. But when I say Black Clandy what comes to your mind first, IFAAM or Grand Orient of France? That's my point. I think everyone who reads my post will understand exactly what I meant by it and why I said it. But to avoid disharmony among Brothers who may be sensitive to racial identifiers I wont use the term.
For the record, my post was not directed at you. The quotes were messed up in the post I quoted, I had to edit it to correct the problem. I wasn't referring to clandestine lodges when I made that statement either.
I think outside the box so black clandy to me would be a reference to a black man who is clandestine I have never heard the term white clandy just something to think about and mainstream leads one to believe one is superior and the other inferior so I try to reframe from using that as well we must make the necessary corrections in order to move the order forward for the betterment of the craft
Brother that's the beauty of masonry we can come together discuss our differences gain a little knowledge and go away with a little more respect for one another at the end of the day where still going to be brothers