Bro. Vincent
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Bro. Blake I will say this... I understand what you are getting at but, I will humbly say IMO, it is not correct when people of color around the globe are called racist.
Racism is a term used when a group oppresses another group( be it social, economical, physical or physiological and/or in the case of slavery all four) based on the color of their skin. And black people are not in position to oppress anyone!
Where prejudice simply means in this context to Pre- Judge a person based on their skin color or culture. We are all certainly capable of that...
So I feel the PHA aren't in a position to be racist. I personally feel the GLs of PHA around the world on some levels have given up trying to be recognized by MS lodges, because it feels there will never be honest and mural recognition.
The damage slavery has caused in this country will never go away until this country has an honest discussion about it. And the masonic landscape is just an microcosm of the country at large.
I think PHA Grand lodges feel as if, you know what? We have our degree work and rituals why should we fight this battle when we don't have to...we have our original warrant/charter. We won in federal court to be recognized as a legitimate body and there is no reason that we should have to continue to fight to be recognized. ( and I am saying "I think" that is the consensus)
Sounds like the same thing as civil rights fights when even though black folks were free from slavery, Jim Crow was alive and well ripe with Racism.
I do agree with what a poster said earlier in this thread that as younger members on both sides come up more of those walls will be broken down.
But I do feel there are some cultural things in PHA lodges that are probably different than in MS lodges and I personally would hate to see those things disappear because the lodges combine...from a cultural aspect.
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Racism is a term used when a group oppresses another group( be it social, economical, physical or physiological and/or in the case of slavery all four) based on the color of their skin. And black people are not in position to oppress anyone!
Where prejudice simply means in this context to Pre- Judge a person based on their skin color or culture. We are all certainly capable of that...
So I feel the PHA aren't in a position to be racist. I personally feel the GLs of PHA around the world on some levels have given up trying to be recognized by MS lodges, because it feels there will never be honest and mural recognition.
The damage slavery has caused in this country will never go away until this country has an honest discussion about it. And the masonic landscape is just an microcosm of the country at large.
I think PHA Grand lodges feel as if, you know what? We have our degree work and rituals why should we fight this battle when we don't have to...we have our original warrant/charter. We won in federal court to be recognized as a legitimate body and there is no reason that we should have to continue to fight to be recognized. ( and I am saying "I think" that is the consensus)
Sounds like the same thing as civil rights fights when even though black folks were free from slavery, Jim Crow was alive and well ripe with Racism.
I do agree with what a poster said earlier in this thread that as younger members on both sides come up more of those walls will be broken down.
But I do feel there are some cultural things in PHA lodges that are probably different than in MS lodges and I personally would hate to see those things disappear because the lodges combine...from a cultural aspect.
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