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1717-2017

dfreybur

Premium Member
The quarterly communication of UGLE has been completely booked for quite some time last time this was discussed. Plan your celebration locally not with a trip to the UK if you intend to do it at the GL level.
 

Glen Cook

G A Cook
Site Benefactor
I am surprised if the dinner is booked. Certainly that information has not been communicated to the provinces. Source?

And, to quibble, it is the UGLE anniversary.
 

dfreybur

Premium Member
I was attempting to circumvent the ubiquitous "Masonry began in 1717" comments.

Grand lodge Freemasonry did begin then. Rather like we count the day we were raised as a "Masonic birthday" yet we'd been a brother since we we initiated, Masonry started down a different path at that first meeting.
 

Brother JC

Moderating Staff
Staff Member
That's what I thought. You would not be able to petition "online," as you must be physically present to receive the Degrees, and will have to petition a specific lodge. You can't just petition UGLE to become a Mason.
 

Warrior1256

Site Benefactor
Time willshow. May be I'll live in London in 2017. Maybe mypetition will be rejected. I wanna say that I'll be researchin Masonry with pleasure. And when I'll be 'ready', at the age 35/36, I'll submit my petition, I think.
Very good!
 

Mike Martin

Eternal Apprentice
Premium Member
Sorry for being so finicky but:
Define "our." The only thing that happened in 1717 is that the "grand lodge" system was created.
Well what actually happened in 1717 was the beginning of a quantum shift away from a system that was mainly for Operative Masons and accepted the odd non operative member which had nearly died out to a system of Fraternity with heavy philosophical overtones. Had those four London Lodges not taken the action they did it is unlikely that Freemasonry would be around today.

And, to quibble, it is the UGLE anniversary.
Just to correct it the the tercentenary (300th Anniversary) of the foundation of the Grand Lodge of London and Westminster, the very first Grand Lodge in the World and later to become the Grand Lodge of England (Premier or Moderns). The UGLE being formed of the joining together of the two Grand Lodges of England marked its formation in 2013 but much more quietly as that was not as important as the first Grand Lodge that was its foundation I do wonder if we will do something in 2056 to mark the Founding of the Antients Grand Lodge.

Grand lodge Freemasonry did begin then. Rather like we count the day we were raised as a "Masonic birthday" yet we'd been a brother since we we initiated, Masonry started down a different path at that first meeting.
Here in the Home Grand Lodges we are a Freemason from the night of our Initiation not our Raising which can be several years later (for me it was 3).
 

NY.Light

Registered User
I'm a little ticked, because if the jurisdiction where I live let 19 year olds petition, I could be a Master Mason during the 300-anniversary celebrations. Oh well.
 

NY.Light

Registered User
I won't be able to petition in my jurisdiction until I am 21, which will be 2017. Unless, of course, the Grand Lodge changes the requirement.
 

dfreybur

Premium Member
Here in the Home Grand Lodges we are a Freemason from the night of our Initiation not our Raising which can be several years later (for me it was 3).

Be that as it may, in my jurisdictions the night of a brother's raising is remembered as his "Masonic birthday" not the night of his initiation. He's a Brother from the moment he is obligated during his initiation but many see the raising as a symbolic rebirth into a new spiritual life. While not a religious event it symbolically mirrors events in a number of religions.
 

Warrior1256

Site Benefactor
Be that as it may, in my jurisdictions the night of a brother's raising is remembered as his "Masonic birthday" not the night of his initiation. He's a Brother from the moment he is obligated during his initiation but many see the raising as a symbolic rebirth into a new spiritual life. While not a religious event it symbolically mirrors events in a number of religions.
Good info, makes sense.
 
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