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JB93

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Who would know what you where doing unless they where a Mason themselves I have never seen someone give a DG accompanied by a sign or step in any order outside lodge its pointless try it in lodge and see if you don't get called out for it
Yea you right bro
 

Glen Cook

G A Cook
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This is kinda disrespectful remember we are all Mason's and meet on the level regardless of age




IMO this is being used as a crutch in some jurisdictions PHA GL's could easily withdraw recognition from GLOF why burn bridges when no one is trying to replace them and I get the whole connecting of the dots theory but has GLofGA sent correspondence stating MWPHGLofGA needs to do this or are both sides just happy with the way things are not being in amity with one another ?
It was not meant as such. Rather, I was pointing out the irony of his public use of secret ritual language to prove that symbols are secret. A bit of irony, isn't it?

I've not heard that GA is tuned into the issue nor did I assert that was the current issue. I quite agree that bigotry is the basis for the separation in that Grand Lodge
 

mrpierce17

KOP Council director / Lodge instructor
Premium Member
It was not meant as such. Rather, I was pointing out the irony of his public use of secret ritual language to prove that symbols are secret. A bit of irony, isn't it?

I've not heard that GA is tuned into the issue nor did I assert that was the current issue. I quite agree that bigotry is the basis for the separation in that Grand Lodge

Oh ok got it
 

JB93

Registered User
Oh ok got it
It was not meant as such. Rather, I was pointing out the irony of his public use of secret ritual language to prove that symbols are secret. A bit of irony, isn't it?

I've not heard that GA is tuned into the issue nor did I assert that was the current issue. I quite agree that bigotry is the basis for the separation in that Grand Lodge[/QUOTE
It was not meant as such. Rather, I was pointing out the irony of his public use of secret ritual language to prove that symbols are secret. A bit of irony, isn't it?

I've not heard that GA is tuned into the issue nor did I assert that was the current issue. I quite agree that bigotry is the basis for the separation in that Grand Lodge

I wasnt saying we cant have our S&C in public. I was showing everybody our obligation says we cant broadcast our symbols. My whole point is if YOU'RE GOING TO USE THE OBLIGATION TO JUSTIFY WHY WE SHOULDNT USE THE SIGNS IN PUBLIC TO SHOW ANOTHER MASON YOU ARE A BROTHER TOO, then you are at violation by having on paraphernalia in public. You cant frown on one part but be okay with another part. Me personally I don't see anything wrong with wearing the S&C nor using signs in public to signal another brother
 
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mrpierce17

KOP Council director / Lodge instructor
Premium Member
Movable body, car ,chair etc
Immovable tree, mountain ,building etc
 

JB93

Registered User
Change is long overdue it will happen eventually I have faith in the order


Change is long overdue it will happen eventually I have faith in the order


After I say this I am done with this thread but I think pha and state should have a grand gathering ceremony basically fraternizing and coming up with new ideas etc every two years! We should share a charity event every two years and we should have a state party every two years to meet n greet! All these events should take place every two years! Should be mandatory but hey Its ok to have imagination i guess
 

Brother JC

Moderating Staff
Staff Member
You know what movable and immovable mean?

Yes, and it still doesn't allude to symbols, merely the items upon which one would write, etc.
It refers to the words, the words we learn from our mentor's mouth. The symbols mean nothing, or at least something else, to the profane. I had squares hanging all over my woodshop, but unless you were a Brother, they were just tools I used in my job.
Search the forum for "tattoos" and you will see this horse was beaten to death long ago.
 
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