Light

Discussion in 'Frequently Asked Questions' started by JB93, Aug 30, 2016.

  1. JB93

    JB93 Registered User

    45
    11
    8
    I think this subject have been discussed before but I really dont remember reading about it here. Idk if this is too much to discuss on here,
    if you want to privately text me this information,I have my dues card to verify that I am a master mason and I will need to see yours also..
    but if it is not too much, I would love for someone to chop it up for me.


    My WM is awsome he teaches me a lot but Im kind of still confused on this "challenging some one for their light" thing.

    I don't wear paraphernalia nor do I ride with emblems. Not because I am scared but I just dont think about wearing it. Even though I know my knowledge, my wm taught me how to protect my light for when ever I decided to wear it. I only wear it at masonic events... I hear people try you in other states.. and I like visiting lodges.. so I may visit a few when I am on the road. I just dont know if I will ever get tried by one of them.. I can answer masonic questions but how they ask it might be weird to me.. He basically gave me a way to protect my light but how he know they ask it in that order...?? Plus it kind of sounded crazy because its not in the ritual that way...


    1.What are the most common things asked when you driving with a emblem?

    2.what are the most common thing asked when wearing your paraphernalia?
     
  2. coachn

    coachn Coach John S. Nagy Premium Member

    2,082
    2,079
    133
    None of this occurs in my jurisdiction. No one challenges for light.
     
    MBC, MRichard and Ripcord22A like this.
  3. Ripcord22A

    Ripcord22A Site Benefactor

    3,330
    2,022
    183
    I get asked "hey ur a mason? What lodge?" if someone ever tried to take my ring or sweatshirt or car emblem for any reason but especially becuse i cant answer some silly question they are gonna be dealing with me as a Man not a Mason. Ill protect whats mine at all costs. Actually id probably let em take after getting their name and lodge name and then show up with the police. Also ive noticed that this is mainly a PHA and more so a clandestine thing. What GL do you hail from?

    Sent from my LG-H811 using My Freemasonry Pro mobile app
     
  4. Glen Cook

    Glen Cook G A Cook Site Benefactor

    2,929
    3,366
    183
    May I ask of what GL you are a member?

    This silliness in some Mssonic cultures of taking property has a definition. It is called theft. It is to be deplored.
     
  5. JB93

    JB93 Registered User

    45
    11
    8
    PHA GLOG.. its not so much of taking my light but embarrassing me or something like that... its almost impossible to know everything in masonry.... I thought it was something you have to know or a way to answer things
     
  6. mrpierce17

    mrpierce17 KOP Council director / Lodge instructor Premium Member

    770
    432
    83
    As far as the taking someone's property that's flat out theft and frowned upon by regular Mason's PHA & GL of state alike as for wearing Masonic paraphernalia I do almost all the time , never been challenged or felt as if someone asking me a question was challenging as I am duly qualified to answer any such question pertaining to the 1st , 2nd & 3rd degree of masonry secondly everyone should know me because I'm always at most events and festive days but anyone wanting to cross that bridge better be ready to answer a few questions themselves and that's even if I feel like playing the Q&A game at that time i may just decide to be off there is a short section in my ritual titled HOW TO PROTECT YOUR EMBLEM I think it pertains more to protecting the secret meanings than the emblem itself ....I'm 6ft 3" & 200+lbs I wish someone would try to take something from me this is one of the oldest and most honorable fraternity's Not a college frat
     
  7. mrpierce17

    mrpierce17 KOP Council director / Lodge instructor Premium Member

    770
    432
    83
    If someone is asking you questions in public there probably 1 clandestine or
    2 not even in good standing
     
    Derek Harvey likes this.
  8. JB93

    JB93 Registered User

    45
    11
    8
    Thanks for that info bro. Well i know no one is taking anything..I dont mind being tried. I just want them to try me by the ritual only.. lol
     
  9. Travelling Man91

    Travelling Man91 Registered User

    983
    393
    63
    Explain questions ?
     
  10. Ripcord22A

    Ripcord22A Site Benefactor

    3,330
    2,022
    183
  11. Glen Cook

    Glen Cook G A Cook Site Benefactor

    2,929
    3,366
    183
    Purposefully embarrassing a brother? Umm, yeah, that's kindly
     
  12. Glen Cook

    Glen Cook G A Cook Site Benefactor

    2,929
    3,366
    183
    Unless I am seeking entry to lodge or seeking a Masonic privilege, I can't think of a need to try me. I am not going to come up to a stranger and converse on the secrets of Freemasonry.

    Of course, at my age, there is the issue of whether I could remember any secrets anyway.
     
  13. JamestheJust

    JamestheJust Registered User

    1,687
    518
    113
    Not being from the US I can't reply too precisely, but with a significant variation of ritual and signs between states and countries, there is a fair degree of tolerance for differences and minor errors.

    I proved a Colombian visitor the other day. After checking the regularity of his Grand Lodge and inspecting his MM certificate I required him to advance to me as an EA. He made the common mistake of a new brother, he made a mirror image of the first regular step. I accepted that. He then correctly provided the sign, grip and word of an EA.

    Since we were short of officers I put him in as Inner Guard. He has now applied to affiliate.
     
    MBC likes this.
  14. Bloke

    Bloke Premium Member

    4,309
    3,036
    133
    Same - first time I'd heard of it was here... prior I'd never heard about this and would not have a good reaction to someone taking my property.
     
  15. Bloke

    Bloke Premium Member

    4,309
    3,036
    133
    Cool - we're getting *heaps* of South American visitors (students) here too... not sure what's up with that.... but its great to see them..
     
  16. JamestheJust

    JamestheJust Registered User

    1,687
    518
    113
    Some of these countries are too corrupt for bringing up a family
     
  17. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 Site Benefactor

    7,332
    3,328
    183
    Exactly!!!
    Right!
    Right. How do I know that the other guy really is a Mason? Besides, why would anyone "try" me on the street? Ridiculous.
     
  18. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

    846
    610
    113
    It's unmasonic behavior and violates your Obligations.
     
  19. Ripcord22A

    Ripcord22A Site Benefactor

    3,330
    2,022
    183
    ABSOLUTELY!!!
     
    Warrior1256 likes this.
  20. Travelling Man91

    Travelling Man91 Registered User

    983
    393
    63
    Do you not ever exchange tokens with brothers outside the Lodge ?
     

Share My Freemasonry