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Howard Giang

Registered User
I just don’t go telling everyone about myself.
I don’t wear clothes branded for the gym I attend, I try to avoid huge brad logos as I’m a person not a billboard and my Masonic affiliation is so I can improve myself as a person, others need not know about it.
being a mason makes me very proud but I’m not going to broadcast it.
If you don't broadcast, how a potential candidate can have an awareness and be able to ask you questions regarding his interest in Freemasonry? Can you be a stealth Freemason where no body will know if you are one them except your Lodge?
 

David612

Registered User
If you don't broadcast, how a potential candidate can have an awareness and be able to ask you questions regarding his interest in Freemasonry? Can you be a stealth Freemason where no body will know if you are one them except your Lodge?
Answering potential candidates questions for people they don’t know isn’t something that is really the domain of every mason.
Lodges have membership committees, grand lodges have membership assistance programs and if I’m going to talk to someone about masonry I’m going to know them personally and I’ll recommended them if they warrant my recommendation.
 
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Keith C

Registered User
Answering potential candidates questions for people they don’t know isn’t something that is really the domain of every mason.
Lodges have membership committees, grand lodges have membership assistance programs and if I’m going to talk to someone about masonry I’m going to know them personally and I’ll recommended them if they warrant my recommendation.

Do you work in a jurisdiction that allows "recruitment" for lack of a better word, of candidates or are you in a "2B1ASK1" jurisdiction? I understand that you wish to keep what you consider private, private, but by effectively "hiding your light under a bushel" are you possibly denying someone you do know from seeing how you live and act, admiring it and wondering if your Masonic affiliation might be indicative of a source of such character? You don't have to be someones recommender to assist them to seek out the light.

Just some food for though.
 

David612

Registered User
Do you work in a jurisdiction that allows "recruitment" for lack of a better word, of candidates or are you in a "2B1ASK1" jurisdiction? I understand that you wish to keep what you consider private, private, but by effectively "hiding your light under a bushel" are you possibly denying someone you do know from seeing how you live and act, admiring it and wondering if your Masonic affiliation might be indicative of a source of such character? You don't have to be someones recommender to assist them to seek out the light.

Just some food for though.
In Australia the 2b1ask1 isn’t a thing, however my family and close friends know what I do and should someone mention it to them they make that connection and I’ll speak with the potential candidate.
It’s not something for discussion with random strangers in the street, for me masonry is quite a personal experience and I don’t feel the need to wear that affiliation on my sleeve
 

jermy Bell

Registered User
I don' go out of my way to tell anyone that I am a mason, ( unless I'm wearing my hoodie) then it usually gives it away. But a brother from a lodge a visit quite often will tell anyone who will listen to him go on about how he is a mason. He believes this will gain him some kind of social status.
 

Dontrell Stroman

Premium Member
Not really but was implied once by someone I work with we were KKK.
True statement. Many southern GLs and their members are still at times today looked apon as white supremacist. Rumor has it many Klan members held their meetings in masonic lodges. I can not confirm this but it would not surprise me as many Klan members were active Freemasons.

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Bloke

Premium Member
True statement. Many southern GLs and their members are still at times today looked apon as white supremacist. Rumor has it many Klan members held their meetings in masonic lodges. I can not confirm this but it would not surprise me as many Klan members were active Freemasons.

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I read the same - but take note, the Klan was formed because Freemasons should not stand by such things. Like the Freemasons who founded the sectarian Loyal Orange Lodge, they had to found the separate organization outside the Craft because to promote many of its values in lodge would be unmasonic. If Freemasonry was the KKK, then there would have been no need to found the Klan ?
 

Dontrell Stroman

Premium Member
I read the same - but take note, the Klan was formed because Freemasons should not stand by such things. Like the Freemasons who founded the sectarian Loyal Orange Lodge, they had to found the separate organization outside the Craft because to promote many of its values in lodge would be unmasonic. If Freemasonry was the KKK, then there would have been no need to found the Klan ?
Agreed, although I dont remember anyone claiming the KKK as a whole is linked directly to Freemasonry, only certain members. It would be idiotic to make such a statement accusing Freemasonry as a whole to be a white supremacist organization although I do believe post civil war era many members were apart of both organzations.

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Warrior1256

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but take note, the Klan was formed because Freemasons should not stand by such things. Like the Freemasons who founded the sectarian Loyal Orange Lodge, they had to found the separate organization outside the Craft because to promote many of its values in lodge would be unmasonic. If Freemasonry was the KKK, then there would have been no need to found the Klan ?
Agreed.
I dont remember anyone claiming the KKK as a whole is linked directly to Freemasonry, only certain members. It would be idiotic to make such a statement accusing Freemasonry as a whole to be a white supremacist organization although I do believe post civil war era many members were apart of both organzations.
Also agree.
 

Brother_Steve

Premium Member
Do you work in a jurisdiction that allows "recruitment" for lack of a better word, of candidates or are you in a "2B1ASK1" jurisdiction? I understand that you wish to keep what you consider private, private, but by effectively "hiding your light under a bushel" are you possibly denying someone you do know from seeing how you live and act, admiring it and wondering if your Masonic affiliation might be indicative of a source of such character? You don't have to be someones recommender to assist them to seek out the light.

Just some food for though.
Pretty much this for me.

Some of my friends know. Some of my family knows. Otherwise, I do not advertise my affiliation outside of a ring.

I'm not out there to have random conversations with random people unless they are a Brother. Even then, the topic will not be of a masonic nature unless I know them personally/have sat with them in Lodge.

My masonic affiliation was actually hid from most of my family until I participated in a masonic funeral for my Brother-in-Law's dad.
 

David612

Registered User
They depict us as murderers and thieves...
Presumably it’s Morgan scandal related?
there is some pretty compelling evidence that those brothers probably where killers, follow that with the shameful acts of the GL at the time by expelling brothers who spoke out against this behaviour and yet the convicted brothers remained by all accounts in good standing (well the wherent expelled so by default they are in good standing).
Many brothers left the craft and gave rise to the anti Masonic party.

That’s my recollection of material anyway, have a read for yourself cause I may be mistaken but it is an interesting topic.
 

Matt L

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I have spoken to Police Officers that work in the UK that told me they had to disclose their membership in the craft because of perceived favoritism in the ranks.

I have a Masonic license plate, a percentage of the fee goes directly to the widows and orphans fund. A neighbor asked me why I have a Mason county tag on my car, I explained it was a Masonic tag. He stormed off telling me his brother the preacher said it was a cult. I was never invited back to dinner and he always had an excuse when asked over to our home.

My sister watches the History Channel, so she occasionally asks the usual stupid questions.

An application for a security clearance asked if I was a member of any fraternal organizations, I was truthful and received my clearance Clarence. Other than my neighbor, It's never been an issue with anyone except my church, I was raised Catholic. I attend a non denominational Christian Church now.
 

Warrior1256

Site Benefactor
A neighbor asked me why I have a Mason county tag on my car, I explained it was a Masonic tag. He stormed off telling me his brother the preacher said it was a cult. I was never invited back to dinner and he always had an excuse when asked over to our home.
Big loss! If someone does not want to be my friend because I will not do as they think I should that's fine by me.
 
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