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Tonight I’m admitted to the AASR

David612

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After 4 years of waiting I am tonight a candidate for the 18th degree, To top it off to make this happen there had to be a change in one chapters bylaws (both in my area where trinitarian only) and to be the very first candidate in what will no doubt be a massive boon for the local Masonic community is just such an honour.

I haven’t been able to keep the smile off my face since my application was approved.
 

Winter

Premium Member
Congratulations. Where does (or did) AASR have a Trinitarian requirement?

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David612

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Congratulations. Where does (or did) AASR have a Trinitarian requirement?

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Many jurisdictions around the world are this way, we (australia) inherited from the UK..
additionally we are initiated on the 18th and have the 4-17 communicated.
 

Bloke

Premium Member
Many jurisdictions around the world are this way, we (australia) inherited from the UK..
additionally we are initiated on the 18th and have the 4-17 communicated.
Victoria has two AASR, one with a Trinitarian requirement, one with none. One Australian, the other Scottish. I can't remember which does not have the requirement.. Is it the Australian one ?
 

Winter

Premium Member
I still don't get Masonic bodies that exclude members based on their faith. But I've argued that in the past and I know I won't be changing anyone's minds.

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David612

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Victoria has two AASR, one with a Trinitarian requirement, one with none. One Australian, the other Scottish. I can't remember which does not have the requirement.. Is it the Australian one ?
My limited understanding is that we got our ritual from the UK which holds the trinitarian requirement but they got their ritual from the NMJ which doesn’t.
*shrug* I’m now entitled to visit both regardless, and to be honest the universal ritual feels very Christian anyway, I personally would rather take a universal path where one exists as I’m not in favour of additional faith requirements beyond those of the blue lodge.
 

Bloke

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My limited understanding is that we got our ritual from the UK which holds the trinitarian requirement but they got their ritual from the NMJ which doesn’t.
*shrug* I’m now entitled to visit both regardless, and to be honest the universal ritual feels very Christian anyway, I personally would rather take a universal path where one exists as I’m not in favour of additional faith requirements beyond those of the blue lodge.
I checked -
Supreme Council 33° A. & A. S Rite for Scotland Province of Victoria is a Christian Order
Antient and Accepted Scottish Rite for Australia - do not need to be Christian.

... I’m not in favour of additional faith requirements beyond those of the blue lodge.
I used to have the same view - but changed it. Freemasons should be encouraged to follow their interests and meet their own needs. If that means faith or height or financial requirements - so be it... many brothers here get upset about "dinning lodges" where dinner is expensive, good luck to them I say and as long as they are having fun and being good men, go for it is my thought..

If you find AASR does not sit well with you, try the Mark or Chapter - but talk to a mentor as to which.
 

David612

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Personally I take no issue with the Christian themes as it works for me but I don’t like the idea of excluding a mason from membership based on faith.
 

Glen Cook

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I still don't get Masonic bodies that exclude members based on their faith. But I've argued that in the past and I know I won't be changing anyone's minds.

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I am empathetic to your view, as my faith was excluded from the GL of UT for a period of some sixty years, only ending in 1984.

However, we as masons non-believers. Some GLs are monotheistic, some require belief in resurrection; in the immortality of the soul; and some even require be a professing Christian.

I’m hard put then, from a logical basis, to object to such exclusion in a side order.
 
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