1 Day Chance To Advance Classes

Discussion in 'General Freemasonry Discussion' started by JJones, Jul 18, 2013.

  1. nfasson

    nfasson Registered User

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    As someone who is going to attend a meeting to meet the local lodge members and hope to petition to start the process, I have to say being able to complete all the degrees in one day seems, well, too easy.

    I want to take my sweet time, not rush things... life is full enough of rushing things already!


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  2. crono782

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    That's a good attitude to have.


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  3. David N.

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    I am only an FC, and can only speak to my experience, but I'm glad my state requires 28 days between degrees.
    Those months have been spent with 3-4 nights a week studying (and getting to know my coach, whom I am now proud to call my Brother and friend, as well as the more active members and officers).
    Basically immersing myself in each degree, proving proficiency, helping out with fundraisers, etc. has I believe given me a good "foundation" as well as "introduction", especially in my home lodge.
    It also gave me a chance to travel around and observe several 1sts and 2nds in my jurisdiction.
    I now have alot of guys from mine and neighboring lodges supporting me, and eager to attend my third.
    I did not know any of these men, save one, the night of my initiation.
    The only downside is that my lodge had a 3rd right before going dark for two months, and I was barely ineligible!
     
  4. lourocks

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    Well one a month maybe its good for you could work in my lodge besides being proficent you must prove that you are ready to advance we donot want whats called a pariot mason just because you can memorize a ritual are you ready my lidge has set a new standerd for us in the past they were just sendin people threw

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  5. Brother_Steve

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    I went through the degrees and we have a PM who loves to talk about masonry. A few weeks after each degree, he holds a class for the degree we just went through. He breaks down the OB, lecture and charges to plain english and makes sure we understand what they mean.

    I would not have such a problem with a ODC if it carried a stipulation of mandatory educational classes to go over each degree in depth.
     
  6. lourocks

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    Im glad My state doesn't do it we have a waiting period of 6 months in between degrees

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  7. Brother_Steve

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    NY has a 6 month period between degrees?

    That has to be rough. Many if not all states open in the third because of the incident in the 1800's so lodges could keep out pretenders to keep them from spying on the lodges to see where the money went. However I would not mind seeing lodges open in the first in today's day and age where the anti-masonic sentiment is not what it used to be.

    a) you could charge dues on EA and FC masons.

    b) It would wash out those not serious with the craft.

    c) The time between degrees would not seem as long when participating in the business of the lodge.

    d) You could vote and possibly travel easier as a card carrying EA or FC.

    e) It would eliminate the one day class program because the point of the class, in my opinion, is to generate numbers for the grand lodge. EA's and FC's paying dues would supplement GL's need for it's cut and newly made masons could be educated properly without going through gutted memory work.
     
  8. Bro Darren

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    I found out that in Victoria (Australia) that you need to be a mason for 12 months before you can become a Master Mason.
     
  9. lourocks

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    Its not.a order we actually only have a 2 week rule but my lodge is setting a,new a standard for the brothers which im in full agrreiance with there is no time limit on the degrees one should be proficent in every way not be passed because they can rember a few pages just my opinion but the rule is 2 weeks between degrees in nys

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  10. David N.

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    So does your Lodge have a 6 month minimum between degrees?
     
  11. dhoover

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    I am in a unique situation. I did my EE, and FC degrees in my local Lodge, and finished my MM degree at a one day class.

    having experienced both methods, I can tell you that the experience is much more personal and meaningful doing it at you local lodge.


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  12. Michael Hatley

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    I think it has gotten to the point that in much of Masonry in the United States, Past Master is the new Master Mason. Sure and it is another name and a different ball of wax. But with lodges so small nowadays and most people going through the line in 4-5 years, and most active Masons doing so....

    Obviously one day is just an introduction. A taste. If it gets men into the line, where the real work is at - well, thats the lot we've been dealt I reckon.

    Personally I'd see the TO way of doing things....insomuch as PM was not the goal, but MM was - but in mainstream lodges it just is what it is and you gotta work with what we have.
     
  13. JJones

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    I prefer to see it this way as well. Unfortunately it is like you say and many lodges put brothers in the East way before they are ready regardless of if they're qualified to be leaders or not.
     
  14. dfreybur

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    My attitude towards classes changed when a brother failed to show yup to his second degree at lodge then he did show up at a class and then became active after that. This in Illinois where classes are FC+MM not all 3 in the same day. Variation of a theme.
     
  15. Rufus

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    It is important not quantity but quality.
     
  16. Gibson90kb

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    I took the one day class. While everything was compressed , I was still able to retain almost all of the knowledge. Thank G for literature! :)


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  17. Rufus

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    I'm very sorry for the grammatical errors.



    If you looked at human nature, then:

    1. The man always wants what he does not . And trying to achieve it (get it)
    This is the force that drives him.

    2. when a man got what he wanted, then to lose interest.


    3. The rise of classes, can reduce a person's interest to further improve.
    But he's already got something that sought, but quickly enough and now his desire is not strong, purposeful.

    4.This lost personal experience.
    When one person is initiated, then he has a different experience.
    When several people initiated, it is quite another.
    When one (1) then experiences stronger ritual feelings , than when obtained by a group of initiation.


    I think so.
     
  18. Benjamin Baxter

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    The experiences that I have had going through the degrees has been a great one. I feel that having had it condensed into me day would have short-changed me a bit. There are very few circumstances that this is fair to the candidate in my opinion. Going off to serve our country and terminal illness would be my examples of these circumstances. It are these experiences that help make us better men, why should we rush that process.
     

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