At what point?

Discussion in 'General Freemasonry Discussion' started by dew_time, May 15, 2013.

  1. dew_time

    dew_time Registered User

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    When are you an official mason? I've heard it's after you become master that you are a brother but others say its after your voted in.

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  2. JJones

    JJones Moderator Staff Member

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    I'd say it's the moment you take on the EA obligation.

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  3. jwhoff

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    I've often pondered this very question. But, how could a man call himself a mason until after he's taken, understood, and began living by the full obligations?
     
  4. dew_time

    dew_time Registered User

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    To me your statement says your not a mason until you've reached the 3° or maybe even higher degrees.

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  5. JJones

    JJones Moderator Staff Member

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    I'll elaborate now that I don't think I'm going to get blown away by a tornado. :p

    You're made a mason when you take the EA obligation. Those of us who remember the catechism should recall what was done with us at the altar and what was said to us in the NE corner.

    It's pretty black and white, at least in my mind. You're either a mason or you're not. The masonic teachings are to be implemented in our lives and this should, in theory, make us more independent, reliable, well rounded, and charitable men. We are given more responsibilities as we develop but I'm not convinced that more responsibilities more one more or less of a mason.

    Different degrees are, or should be, representative of the personal development masonry should instigate in us.

    Just my .02 though, as always. :001_tongue:
     
  6. Brother Anthony

    Brother Anthony Registered User

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    I'm an entered apprentice and consider myself and have been told I'm a Freemason.


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  7. dew_time

    dew_time Registered User

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    Glad the tornado didn't get you.. I didn't see OZ on the list of recognized lodges ;)

    Thank you all for the information!!

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  8. MarkR

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    You are a Mason when you take your 1° obligation. However, since you're an apprentice, you're not able to travel and work as such without the supervision of a Master Mason. That's why you can't visit another Lodge without a MM who saw you initiated who can vouch for you, and why you shouldn't wear Masonic jewelry yet. But once you are an EA, you are called "brother" and you are a Mason.
     
  9. widows son

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    In Canada, since work is done in the first degree, an OB EA can sit in the lodge. He is also a dues paying member at this point and is very much a Mason. I'm not sure on the traveling aspect, I didn't travel on my own when I was an EA.
     
  10. CStevenson

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    From what I have heard, different countries/regions will have different opinions. In Texas, from the first degree on you are a Mason. However, as a EA, you just have recieved only a part of the benefits of a MM. Is an EA a Mason, in Texas, yes. Will he recieve further benefits of being a Mason as he moves up throught the degrees, again yes.
     
  11. Pscyclepath

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    You are a Mason from the point when you complete the EA obligation. You might have noticed a change in what you were called from that moment forward. The rest of it, from Fellowcraft to master mason and beyond, to York rite, Scottish Rite, or whatever, is simply a never-ending quest for more light and understanding thereof.
     
  12. RWApplebaum

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    You are considered a brother or mason after you receive the grip and word of EA. after that point you can prove yourself a mason.


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  13. crono782

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    Following the obligation. The EA catechism makes plain when, where, and what made you a mason.


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  14. dew_time

    dew_time Registered User

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    I am looking forward to fully understanding what this all means!! Right now it all seems like a riddle but I'm time will make it clear too me.

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    Last edited: May 16, 2013
  15. j_gimpy

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    Haha i know exactly how you feel, Dew. I'm waiting on my interview to be scheduled! :)


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  16. Roy Vance

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    Well said, Brother Mark. My mentor/instructor made fairly clear to me after just a few days of instruction, that, as an Entered Apprentice, there were certain things that I was not yet entitled to know, therefore, I could not visit another lodge unless I was in the company of a Master Mason and he was certain that the lodge would be opened in the first degree. I was also taught the Tiler's Oath after about two weeks of instruction. It took about another week to figure out why, because he never told me what it was for. Go figure!
     
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  17. tommason

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    My great grandfather was a master mason at the Scottish lodge over 100 years ago I want to join and carry on his legacy how do I go about this as none of my remaining family are involved in any of the mason lodges ??


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  18. Bro_Carl

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    Look online to find the grand lodge in your state and the site will usually list the local lodges in your area with either a phone number or email address, or you can stop by your local lodge before the next meeting, meet the brothers and inquire about joining


    Br Carl
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  19. tommason

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    Thanks brother Carl much appreciated


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  20. AnthonyPomilia357

    AnthonyPomilia357 Registered User

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    You become a brother when you are brought to the light of the Entered Apprentice degree (1°). You are an official Freemason when you receive the Sublime Degree of a Master Mason (3°).

    Master Mason from Metamora/Hadley Lodge No. 210 of the GL of MI
     

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