Bogus, Clandestine, Unrecognized, and In All Ways Irregular

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  1. Travelling Man91

    Travelling Man91 Registered User

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    Off topic, but I see no need to start another thread when in same in the same category. I was speaking with the GL of TN and they said for a PHA mason to petition their lodges, he has to first denounce his membership. What are your brothers thoughts on this ?

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  2. Ripcord22A

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    I don't know about the terminology of denounce but PHA doesn't allow multiple dual whatever you want to call it memberships Sophia PHA member to join any Grand Lodge of State they would have to no longer be members of a PHA jurisdiction. I believe either Minnesota or Michigan is the only PHA jurisdiction that allows duel or plural membership. Afaik PHA doesnt even allow its members to be members of more then 1 lodge in their own jurisdictions
     
  3. Bloke

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    Denounce or Renounce ?

    Me, I am a fan of duel memberships - I can't see how a GL should restrict freedom of association - esp with other regular freemasons from GLs you are in amity with...
     
  4. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    They don't recognize any PHA grand lodge and most PHA jurisdictions don't allow you to have dual or multiple affiliations.
     
  5. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    Not sure if you are really interested but you would have a better chance with the Grand Lodge of Georgia if you are still staying in the same place. Gate City Lodge #2 has several Black members. http://www.gatecity2.org/officers.html
     
  6. Travelling Man91

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    Correction, renounce. The problem is, my GL is not in Amity with the State GL. (PHA and GL of state). He said the first step is to fill out a form to renounce PHA. Then you can petition a lodge. That means if the GL of state blue Lodge doesn't vote you in then you will no longer be a active mason in any Lodge. I'm pretty sure if a man renounced PHA and he didn't get in, PHA would not let him back in.
     
  7. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    That is why you visit the lodge you want to join and discuss your situation many times before you denounce your membership. Other brothers have done it.
     
  8. Travelling Man91

    Travelling Man91 Registered User

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    I tried to PM you, but it would not let me
     
  9. Travelling Man91

    Travelling Man91 Registered User

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    What are your thoughts on renouncing your membership ?
     
  10. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    Okay, will try to send you one
     
  11. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    Sent you a pm.
     
  12. dizlwizl

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    I can understand if a grand body requires you to renounce your affiliation (PHA to mainstream or vice versa ) since PHA doesn't allow dual/plural membership between both GLs.

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  13. Travelling Man91

    Travelling Man91 Registered User

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    You believe PHA would let someone back in if they renounce ?
     
  14. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    I have no idea. There are probably some brothers that would know.
     
  15. dizlwizl

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    So far, no one that has left PHA (in TX ) and gone mainstream has come back and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't want to.

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  16. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    I think he means if the ballot was found unfavorable. If you were forced to renounce your membership, then you would be in bad shape then.
     
  17. dizlwizl

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    Not exactly true. The brother that left PHA left for personal reasons. Demitted and I believe was told that he had to renounce PHA upon restarting with the GLOTX.

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  18. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    Not sure who you are responding to but he appears to be asking about his situation. He lives in Georgia not Texas. Totally different situation.
     
  19. Joe Ellis

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    'A legitimate branch of Freemasonry'?
     
  20. Glen Cook

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    Now, you know what is meant by that term and you are aware your obedience is not considered such by UGLE or CGMNA GLs.
     

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