I'm confussed... I really am. What are we debating here? This thread has jumped 3 times and pissed a few people off? I mean really. If we say no to the dang thing do you honestly think it can stop it from going through?
I didnt realize people were pissed...
I want each and every one of you to sit and think about your local government and then the state. At what point does it get corrupt?
at the local level. It takes much less money to influence a small town mayor than a congresscritter. For that matter a city councilman. witness whats going on in Dallas right now...
Sure we can complain all we want but the truth is WE ALL just benifitted from something we wanted being tacked on and slid under the door of Congress. HB2555 for the property tax. Why else would do you think that GM did not want us to call our congress members?
Agreed, I had concerns at the time this came up. Didnt seem to be on the level as it were
So I ask why is it ok sometimes and not ok others?
It shouldnt be. Its a political reality but it shouldnt be.
There is not one person on this forum that can tell me that the healthcare system in the USA is right and does not need to be fixed.
fixing yes, overhauled to the point of the government running it? no! Id rather keep what I have, which if you make any change at all, any change to your current policy its out the window and your stuck with the ghubment plan. If the federal government wants to fix healthcare, lets start with fixing medicare and medicaid! Its already bankrupting the country and is filled with corruption. Baby steps would be better fix whats there first, then move to improving it by adding more to it.
Heathcare companies have too much power over us as a middleclass and it needs to stop. ?
Healthcare insurance companies have a 3.5% profit margine. Fertilizer companies have around a 15% profit margine! Ive seen military health care, the VA, medicare etc. FAIL! How well do you think a bureaucracy in DC will manage health care? Honestly? There goal will be to minimize direct costs and will have more layers than a 1015 onion. By direct costs I mean the cost for medical treatment. With the headcount they will add at every layer the costs to the taxpayer will be HUGE.
Every country in the world that has government run medicine has a much higher cancer rate, lower cancer survival rate. One example I saw online was talking about how long it takes to get in to get an MRI done in England... 8 months is about normal. Here? I can get in tomorrow or even today.
One person mentioned that the US has a better medical infrastructure than the other countries do. I wonder why? US has something like 1 MRI for every 300 people. UK its more like 3000. Why? Doctors and hospitals bought them. The government doesnt want to put out the money for them. With few exceptions, very few new innovations in surgery, medicine and equipment comes from any other country but the US... I wonder why? Making money is a huge incentive. If there is no profit in it most wont spend the money to research it or develop it. I seriously doubt the government will invest the time and money into and if they do the money has to come from somewhere to pay for it.
In order to fix the problem we need to define the problem. Honest open discussions. Not using inflated numbers of how many dont have insurance. Example, I asked my congressman if I was included as part of the uninsured. After all I dont have my companies insurance, I turned down the military retiree insurance so thats 2 reports I show up on as uninsured. Wait! Im on my wifes policy at CVS because its a better policy than the government policy via the military or the AT&T policy... the answer was yea Im getting counted twice as uninsured. Illegal aliens are being counted as part of the uninsured. Opps just ran into the points of a compasses!