Fees and Dues

Discussion in 'General Freemasonry Discussion' started by Wingnut, Sep 4, 2008.

  1. Wingnut

    Wingnut Premium Member

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    What are your Lodges annual dues?

    What are the fees for each degree (not including the Masonic Charity Donation and Geo. Washington Memorial donation)?

    What other fees or income does you lodge have?

    Im trying to get a feel for what other lodges in the State are charging since Im part of a committee to look at possibly raising dues/fees. Ours are $50 per year, EA 50, FC 50, MM 75 (plus the required $5 for EA donation and $25 for MM) Ive seen some as low as $30 and as high as $240. Ive been told that PHA is $140 a month...
     
  2. rhitland

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    my only advice is to keep your Brothers in mind that are living on retirment and social security and such. We at 148 doubled our dues and lost over 60 mbrs out of 200 and I fear there will be more. The also are mostly older Brothers. I wish I woukd have thought of an alternative we could have offered Brother who are retired or disabled.
    My Grandfather told me he has lived on money from social security since 1988 and has recived very few increased to keep up with rising cost.
    A few of us wich now we would have done the raising over a 5 year period or more a little at a time.
     
  3. Joey

    Joey Co-Founder Staff Member

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    Our dues at #30 are $30 a year.

    I honestly don't remember what we charge for the different degrees.:confused:
     
  4. Blake Bowden

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    Usually $20 I think
     
  5. Wingnut

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    Some of what Im looking at is there are minimums set by Grand Lodge for fees and dues. (Degrees no less than $30, $25 to Masonic Charities at MM degree, $5 to Washington memorial, annual no less than $30... chapter 17, title II Fees and Dues, Laws of the Grand Lodge of Texas rv 2007)

    Plus there are fees that have to be paid to GL based on number of members etc.

    In order to be sustaining and have any hope of being able to grow without eating into savings those values need to be exceeded. For example we get requests for donations, poor and penniless etc etc.. Putting the onus on collections gathered at meetings puts the greater burden on the brothers that actually show up and participate in the lodge.
     
  6. JTM

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    55, 45, and 35 for the degrees, respectively.

    60 a year for dues.

    if i recall correctly... either way, this is really close

    keep in mind, we have a ton of college students, as well...hard for them to afford too much. but i think this will be raised to 120 starting this next january, with the endowment being 1200.
     
  7. nick1368

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    We just went through this last year. We were finding out that $60 a year wasn't meeting the needs of the Lodge and if we didn't do something drastic we would have to start going in to savings. So after lengthy disscussion in committee and with some of our "older" members we settled on $108 a year. I am can't recall what we charge for degrees. We looked at how many years 108 would stain the lodge and not have to dip into savings. Something else we did and I HIGHLY recommend any and all lodges to do is get the Ad Valorem Tax Exemption. For our Lodge this expemption will save us $20,000 over 5 years!!!
    Anyways, $108 should stain us for at least 3 years (long enought to get me through the East without another increase!!!) We could have done a standard $12 a year increase, but that would not have kept us out of savings. I think the increase depends on each lodge, the committee really needs to hash it out then talk to maybe some "older" members and go from there. I dont think its a good idea to try to hash it out in a lodge meeting...although there needs to be an explaination as to the reasoning behind the new rate. I think after the increase we lost 6 members due to either demit, suspension, or moved their membership because they were no longer in the area but kept thier membership at "home".
    hope that helps some.....
     
  8. Bill Lins

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    Wharton Lodge dues are $50.00/year, and the degree fees are $35.00/EA, $30.00/FC, & $55.00/MM. El Campo's dues are $75.00/year, and I don't know how much the degree fees are there.
     
  9. david918

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    As Bill siad El Campo's dues are $75.00 our degree fees are EA $40 plus $5 for the George Washington Masonic memorial fund, FC$40 and MM $40 plus $10 for the Texas masonic retirement center endowment.

    David Broman
    Secy&PM El Campo#918
    MC Wharton#621
     
  10. JTM

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    i forgot about St. Alban's that meets at the same building as Sul Ross here... degree fees are all well over 100, yearly dues are outrageous as well.

    but they only meet once a month, the master lives out of town (sometimes out of state and flies in once a month for the meetings), and they all wear tuxes to all the meetings.
     
  11. Wingnut

    Wingnut Premium Member

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    Thank you all very much! Keep 'em coming! Also thank you for the ideas and direction!
     
  12. JTM

    JTM "Just in case" Premium Member

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    holding a table lodge with is always a good idea. get a really nice meal, everybody dressed up, and have a donation of 50 bucks. getting some speaker from grand lodge to come in and do some kind of lecture for it is always a possibility.

    if your lodge is into that kind of thing.
     
  13. ravickery03

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    Building vs. No Building

    Generally Lodges that don't own a building are in better financial shape than ones that do.

    Our lodge when first founded had yearly dues of $7 a year, and $120 for a lifetime membership. Today that is the equivalent of $83 a year and $1400 for a lifetime members. Right now Army Lodge #1105 is $45 a year and $600 for an endowed membership (we did away with lifetime memberships in the early 80's).

    Honestly we haven't kept up with inflation, which is part of the reason we (lodges that own their buildings) are findings themselves in a financial bind of sorts.
     
  14. RJS

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    What is the difference between lifetime membership and endowed membership?
     
  15. Bill Lins

    Bill Lins Moderating Staff Staff Member

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    A life membership is just that- it stops when you do. An endowed membership throws off interest from the invested principal perpetually. Even after you're gone to the celestial Lodge above, your Lodge will get a check every year.
     
  16. Bill Lins

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    Doesn't take long to go from "Veteran Extraordinaire" to "Ruffian", does it? :D
     
  17. david918

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    Ahh the 3rd ruffian:)
     
  18. Bill Lins

    Bill Lins Moderating Staff Staff Member

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    Actually, the FOURTH- "Jubalee"! ;)
     
  19. Nate C.

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    At Tolerance 1165 in Beaumont, I think the annual dues are around $75. I don't recall what the degree fees are.
     
  20. owls84

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    Fort Worth No. 148
    EA: $70
    FC: $70
    MM: $70
    Annual Dues: $100
    Endowment: $500

    A life of Masonry: Priceless
     

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