First degree question on study materials??

Discussion in 'Becoming a Freemason' started by mack1389, May 22, 2014.

  1. Ripcord22A

    Ripcord22A Site Benefactor

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    in one of my jurisdictions I would agree. My other one uses what I call text message text.....whnc cme u?
     
  2. MarkR

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    We use a two-letter cipher. Even when I'm pretty familiar with the ritual I'm looking at, I sometimes have a little trouble reading it!
     
  3. Bloke

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    LOL... I'm not ever sure I would call ours a "cypher". No, you actually can't. It simply occasionally has "... that on the ___ was called ___ and that on the ____, ____." First word is "left" and the third one is "right". There's pages where here is not a single blank in our ritual book. We regard "the secrets" purely as the modes of recognition. We do have the standard ob not to "mark, carve engrave indite" etc.. but apparently it does not apply to Grand Secs.... I thought it was strange for a long time, until I realised the critical place of symbolism in Freemasonry, yet, it always feels weird when I think about it... but having a written ritual makes life so much easier and one of the cores of Freemasonry (ritual) so much more accessible. We go a step further with a book of "workings" which even has dance steps for deacons. We've got a lot of PMs, but even we have trained ourselves to check the book.... we pride ourselves on uniformity across our lodges and a very high standard in the lodge room, and these tools help achieve this... These are not restricted, but given to every MM who wants one - it's why most of our charges in my lodges are delivered by MMs - because they have to tools to learn them.
     
  4. Ripcord22A

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    In Oregon we have the "cypher" that has everything from the prep of a candidate with the anteroom lecture, opening and closing in all 3 degrees, all 3 deg rituals, funerals, GM or Reps visits. Also included is the "floor work" example: when the SW is saying why the WM is in the E, the book tells you when the WM should stand. In NM it is just the speaking parts that are included. NM has what they call the "WHITE" book, as the cover is white, that has all the floor work.
     
  5. Bloke

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    Thanks - interesting....
     
  6. Brother_Steve

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    find an EA degree happening in your area and go watch it from the sidelines.

    Also, I'd recommend Claudy's books.
     
  7. Seeves

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    This is exactly how I did it. My job is nothing but driving. Brothers from another lodge had directed me to make a recording for myself, but after taking the obligation during the degree I could not bring myself to do it because to me it was breaking the oath I had already taken. Encrypted or not its still stamping or staining. I chose the method described above.

    Luckily my dad is mentoring me so each night I would learn a question and answer. Easy ones maybe two or three. And just recite them to myself during all my windshield time. As the days went on I commuted the entire degree to memory in 30days.



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  8. Warrior1256

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    I did this myself. While driving I would go over and over it in my head.
     
  9. Brother_Steve

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  10. Abe Johnson

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    I don't think an audio recording of the lecture questions breaks the obligation... As it is not capable of ... fill that part in and I think it will be clear. None of those things are revealed in lecture questions. My humble opinion.

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  11. Seeves

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    Maybe I took a different obligation.


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  12. Bill Lins

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    Under the Grand Lodge of Texas, it certainly does violate OUR obligation. The questions, as well as the answers, are esoteric.
     
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  13. Brother_Steve

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    Our OB hearkens from a time before audio recordings!

    IWNPPSSCCWoE them.

    The question is, what is "them?" In my jurisdiction "them" refers to the modes of recognition that we are entrusted with. The obligation is there to seal the deal.

    Some jurisdictions make everything the secrets of masonry.

    We could all agree that however where the work is written in jurisdictions where it is interpreted to be 'legal,' the work is still private to masons only.
     
  14. Bloke

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    Now **that's** an acronym!
    ( which I'm yet to work out)
     
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  15. Brother JC

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    'Merican EA ob might have some answers...
     
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  16. Brother_Steve

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    I am going to graduate university in the spring of '17 at the age of 40. I told my wife upon returning to school two years ago that, when I graduate, we are going to the UK. I want to witness your EA degree or at least sit in lodge with an English mason so that I may read the OB to compare the differences.
     
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  17. Brother JC

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    Bloke's in Australia, I'm in California. I think we'd all enjoy a trip to the UK to study another jurisdiction's work!
     
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  18. Bloke

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    :)
    I can cheat though.... we have an English lodge here working under UGLE because it never joined our GL.... i've visited the quite a few times; but never seen their third degree.... must do that....
     
  19. Glen Cook

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    You can order the more prevalent rituals from Lewis Masonic.
     
  20. Glen Cook

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    It would in OK and UT
     

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