Freemasonry membership for Pakistani people

Discussion in 'Frequently Asked Questions' started by Shamil, Sep 23, 2014.

  1. Shaheen Iqbal

    Shaheen Iqbal Registered User

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    Without going into too much details about the case the petitioning freemason of Pakistan have been actively fighting their case in court against the Pakistani government since the 80s and they have never been arrested or jailed.

    Furthermore as you have pointed out its has been deemed illegal for a Pakistani to practice freemasonary in Pakistan. Therefore stating it would be illegal for a Pakistani to practice freemasonary abroad would be like starting it is illegal for a Pakistani to enter a bar and enjoy a drink whilst on holiday.
     
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  2. LK600

    LK600 Premium Member

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    You very well could be right. I have a propensity of becoming defensive on the subject of loyalty to ones government/people (specifically in scenarios where loyalty could be towards someone I would liken to the Nazi's). Theoretically intended, and not towards any specific country or person.
     
  3. Shaheen Iqbal

    Shaheen Iqbal Registered User

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    Bro Mike, I am just grateful that your opinion is not the general consensus in UGLE or I would have been denied the opportunity of being made a freemason.
     
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  4. Mike Martin

    Mike Martin Eternal Apprentice Premium Member

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    I am unclear whether you are purposefully misreading what I have written I do hope not, once again for clarity: My statement is NOT that a Pakistani who lives in a country where Freemasonry is NOT illegal cannot join a Lodge, we have many Freemasons of Pakistani origin here in the UK. My statement and I say again is that encouraging a Pakistani living in Pakistan (where Freemasonry and membership of it is illegal) to become a Freemason and therefore an outlaw and subject to legal action by that State is an "un-masonic" act and is NOT encouraged by the UGLE.
     
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  5. dfreybur

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    My worry is that a Pakistani would become a Freemason while living and working in the west, then return home. Should he end up in danger for having taken our degrees, that would not be good.

    Generally groups that work in exile don't return until they have reformed their mother country. I'm quite okay with someone working in exile like that. I worry that going home before the reform works would put someone I adopted into my family in danger.
     
  6. LK600

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    On edit, removed. I will just say I completely disagree with this philosophy.
     
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