I need advice - Wait or start over?

Discussion in 'Becoming a Freemason' started by Kyle Gonzalez, Jan 29, 2019.

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Do I wait to get right with my home lodge, or start over as an EA

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  1. Kyle Gonzalez

    Kyle Gonzalez Registered User

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    I actually got a chuckle from that

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  2. Kyle Gonzalez

    Kyle Gonzalez Registered User

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    I definitely would like to correct the mistakes. It's not that I rashly rushed through, but rather was misguided and misinformed

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  3. CLewey44

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    I don't even think you could retake the degrees to be honest unless you completely lied about any previous affiliations. If all three GLs are in amity, and I think they are, you would have to 'catch-up' on your NPD and just pick up where you left off. I would say be patient and get it right or it'll bite you in the tail eventually anyways. I'm surprised your current secretary or GL Secretary couldn't get in touch with NY and KS to help get this figured out. I've been through the ringer with the demit/re-affiliation process and it takes a long time sometimes. It took my lodge well over a year just to get NY and OK GLs to jive up and I was in good standing. If starting over is somehow an option and they don't mind the fact that you are behind in two separate GLs, then you could go that route and probably be good to go quicker. My concern is when you fill out the affiliation form or petition for that matter, you would be disqualified for being in 'bad standing' in two different GLs. Then if you withheld that information, as I mentioned before, it could bite you in the end.
     
  4. Kyle Gonzalez

    Kyle Gonzalez Registered User

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    I'm not withholding any information. One GL lost my information when transitioning to a new system. Even with my dues card, they couldn't validate me (which is strange considering that this was a chartered lodge). So I pretty much dont exist according to that GL. So that one may have settled itself. The other State has been very difficult to get ahold of and correspond with.

    I think some people are looking way too deep into my inquiry.

    I'm just as confused as to what to do. All I'm simply saying is that my previous lodges have been difficult to get ahold of, and "starting from scratch" was the option I've been given by the current lodge I'm inquiring with. I'm merely asking what you guys would do in this situation.

    - I am/was a regular mason
    - Im not withholding any info. If anything, I'm not being provided with enough info
    - I've been out for 8 years due to financial hardships
    - I'm simply trying to get reinstated
    - Yes, I'm being put through the wringer, which is causing more confusion

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  5. CLewey44

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    Just FYI, NY's Grand Secretary passed away last year I believe and that is probably one major hiccup there. They were slow for me as well. They have someone else now and are getting caught up. You may could go through NY's GL website (maybe you have already) and solicited information through there.
     
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  6. Kyle Gonzalez

    Kyle Gonzalez Registered User

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    I've done that. I finally got a response yesterday, now I'm awaiting follow up to figure out next steps

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  7. Mike Martin

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    The rash bit was about your situation now, there is no rush in Freemasonry :)
     
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  8. rpbrown

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    I am not sure if KY petition is worded the same as TX but ours asks if you have ever belonged to or petitioned another lodge in any other jurisdiction (not sure of exact wording). If you were to answer yes then you would be disqualified without good standing certificates, and if you answered no, then you have effectively lied on your petition.
     
  9. Kyle Gonzalez

    Kyle Gonzalez Registered User

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    I have not yet done anything with a petition. Weve been simply waiting on responses from the other lodges

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  10. CLewey44

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    This is what I was thinking and trying to explain earlier. It simply won't happen most likely, as you said, if they ask about past affiliations.
     
  11. Kyle Gonzalez

    Kyle Gonzalez Registered User

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    I havent yet seen a KY petition. We've been simply looking for solutions that could lead to reinstatement. The idea of "starting over" may have just been something suggested without being entirely sure if that could even happen. I would love to just pay my back dues and be done with all of it, but for that to happen I need to hear back from my home lodge. In all honesty, i'm starting to get discouraged by the whole situation and almost want to just give up altogether
     
  12. CLewey44

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    One thing I've heard of and I think @dfreybur had mentioned it a few months ago, is that some GLs will just make you pay the last two years payments instead of the last 8 or 10 or whatever the person is behind on. NY and/or MO may have that as an option so you don't owe as much.
     
  13. Kyle Gonzalez

    Kyle Gonzalez Registered User

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    Yea, that's the rule as far as I'm aware (two years paid, plus current year).

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  14. Kyle Gonzalez

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    UPDATE: I was contacted by someone who was at my raising, and sounds like this is all going to sort out. Thanks to everyone who shared constructive advice

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  15. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 Site Benefactor

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    Kentucky does ask this on our petition.
     
  16. Bloke

    Bloke Premium Member

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    Ours asks.

    I read all the responses. It is a tricky one, but I think you need to be patient and sort our a clearance certificate from your old GL, at least one of them anyway... that's gonna help. The trick will be finding the right advocate - but last year, as a lodge sec, with all the paperwork required, it still took me 4 months to let a joining member be voted on because his GL was so slow replying to our GL..
     
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