Proposed Racism Resolution

Discussion in 'Masonic Jurisprudence' started by Bill Lins, Mar 21, 2010.

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  1. Bill Lins

    Bill Lins Moderating Staff Staff Member

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    Jurisprudence will advise me directly if they find that the proposal is unConstitutional or not in proper & legal form and will work with me to get it into conformance if needed. That can happen any time between now & the Grand Communication in December. Otherwise, they will present their recommendation when the proposal is brought to the floor for discussion at the Communication.

    As to WMPB, it's a private joke between rhit & me.
     
  2. rhitland

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    Quick question Brother Bill. When a resolution is submitted to GL and referred to com. is it traditional you do not find out how the com. feels till GL when they announce it to everyone or do you get a heads up before hand?
     
  3. TexMass

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    It has my vote!
     
  4. Bill Lins

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    They only contact you if there is a problem with the form and will assign a lawyer to help you whip it into shape, but they do not advise you how they feel about it otherwise.
     
  5. Bill Lins

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    Well, Bro. Jack- scoot your booty to Waco in December! :wink:
     
  6. MedMan7

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    I will deffinitely look forward to hearing the results of this in December. Proves to be interesting indeed. The fact of the matter is that there is still a certain amount of racism that does occur and it does need to be addressed if in no other form than reinforcement of current laws through grand communication to the lodges. This would deffinitely be a topic to read allowed in the reading of the law at a stated meeting in the lodges. You will quickly see who is for and who is against it within your lodge after reading it. It is sad because these people forget about the overall purpose the fraternity stands for. I would even go so far as to say that it is quite possible that these who would get angry over antidiscrimination from the Grand Lodge most likely got into Masonry for the wrong reasons anyway. I know that will step on some toes but we all have to remember that there is a bigger purpose for our organization that to squabble over something that has never technically been allowed anyway. I have not been a Mason for near as long as many on here, but I have already seen how bull headedness has lead to the demise of some lodges because of unwillingness to progress even under the current laws of the Grand Lodge of Texas.
     
  7. owls84

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    Amen Brother MedMan7. And congrats on your first post. Way to make it count. I look forward to plenty more of these blue text posts.
     
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    Thank you sir! I hope to be around more often. Even though I have not posted much, I have enjoyed reading the information posted on here for some time now!
     
  9. rhitland

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    Okay a hypothetical question, if'n this resolution does not pass could a lodge pick this language up you used Brother Bill and amend it into their by-laws. This thought has crossed my mind a time or two to add by-laws on this issue so a lodge can have some recourse and ultimately the GL as well if someone breaks their by-laws knowingly. I wonder if it would be consider proactive for a lodge to go ahead and amend something similar now?
     
  10. Bill Lins

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    Don't know why not- the only question would be whether or not the GL would approve the amendment to the bylaws.
     
  11. rhitland

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    Good point on the by-laws, what a rule or regulation of the lodge? Those are not GL approved correct and just as binding?
     
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    Why not? If you want to make an addition to the law that is currently in place why would this be a contradiction to the Grand Lodge Law? I realize it is a stretch but I keep bringing this up, it is my understanding all they are to do is say it is not allowed because it contradicts existing laws. Is this not correct? If a Lodge is governing itself by creating a higher enforceable standard among its members it should be allowed to do so and not hindered.
     
  13. Bill Lins

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    I agree but GL don't always see it that way. :-(
     
  14. Bill Lins

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    The bylaws ARE the "rules & regulations" of a Lodge.
     
  15. rhitland

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    oh well then, that is weird we put those in the obligation.
     
  16. Bill Lins

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    You're not used to "weird" yet? :wink:
     
  17. Blake Bowden

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  18. jwardl

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    Works for me!
     
  19. owls84

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    This is really going to be a gut check report card. When this thing is debated and voted on the true feelings of our Fraternity will be put in the open. If it fails it will, in my opinion, show that this issue will not go away without action. We hold a tax exemption and we are one incident away from loosing that. Look at the issues in GA. We can be proactive and show that as a group we are not for this kind of behavior or we can have the actions of one Lodge jeopardize the Tax exemption for all the state. The IRS is already trying to get our money for the Lodges not reporting their earnings lets not give them a good reason to come after it.
     
  20. rhitland

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    Tested to see if they would hold true to their word last night and the old guys will NOT sit in with a black man. He left quite peacefully as soon as he saw the man and made no scene what so ever but left none the less. Ii is no fun to see anyone go but I can not tolerate hatred and am glad to see it finally gone in my lodge.
     
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