UGLE Gender Policy

[coachn]

His post as read made it sound as if his position was an accepted fact

Perhaps it is accepted fact, in his opinion...

...and anyone who disagrees with it is wrong.

I can see where one can take it this way. However, after numerous years on forums, I take a lot of these with a ton of salt.

This is simply not the case.

In your opinion?

And I have no doubt that the gender debate will continue raging long after I am gone!

LOL! That's a sure bet!

...Numerous species across different biomes are known to change their sex naturally to increase their evolutionary fitness. Humans replicate natural phenomena daily using science. How is this any different?

Because the x and y genes in these species allow for it whereas human x and y genes are currently fixed and not similar enough to be transmutable once the zygote has formed.

 

[Winter]

Because the x and y genes in these species allow for it whereas human x and y genes are currently fixed and not similar enough to be transmutable once the zygote has formed.

Science is continually proving what we "know" to be wrong. But I think the real issue here is the confusion between the terms sex and gender, which are not analogous. And which one of those are we using for a candidate to determine their suitability for receiving the degrees?

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[coachn]

Science is continually proving what we "know" to be wrong.

In general, most things are not wrongly understood. To argue we must accept something because science "may" prove it to be right someday, is eating the horse before it's born.

But I think the real issue here is the confusion between the terms sex and gender,

In your opinion? (couldn't resist!)

Okay, seriously... I agree that many do not know there is a difference. And some know there is a difference and define each exactly the opposite of those who define them differently.

...which are not analogous.

Analogous or synonymous? Much like Masonry and Freemasonry ;-)

And which one of those are we using for a candidate to determine their suitability for receiving the degrees?

Hazarding a guess, the observers are most likely looking at what's in the candidates' jeans rather then what's in their genes.

 

[Elexir]

As one who has fallowed a close freind of mine through the process its not limited to just trying to define x and y genes.
In Sweden to get diagnosed for gender dysmorfia goes through a long process involving social workers and pschologists as well as doctors. This has to do with the fact that its partly based on the minds relation to the body.

 

[Brother JC]

Are you referring to his last comment?

Gosh, Coach, I thought the discussion I was discussing was implied through the opinion of the discussion we were discussing. I think I got the implication of the opinion crossed with the opinion of the implication.

Things are a lot more like they used to be than they are now.

 

[coachn]

Gosh, Coach, I thought the discussion I was discussing was implied through the opinion of the discussion we were discussing. I think I got the implication of the opinion crossed with the opinion of the implication.

Things are a lot more like they used to be than they are now.

LOL! Good One!

 

[Rifleman1776]

All of it. Numerous species across different biomes are known to change their sex naturally to increase their evolutionary fitness. Humans replicate natural phenomena daily using science. How is this any different?

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Low order animals, like worms and fish, can change. Humans are the highest order and cannot change sex. Females who undergo surgery and drugs cannot father children. Males who do the same cannot bear children. Female chromosomes stay XX. Male chromosomes stay XY. Those are medical facts.