Traveling

[Glen Cook]

Both sides just put the past behind them, move forward towards the same light.


Sent from Mossy Oak Swamp Bottom.

But that's the point. Until the the remaining Southern GLs decide to move toward the light*, no movement can happen. And the reason no movement can happen is simple racism. I sat in an appendant body meeting when members of a Southern GL used the N Word and walked out over PHA recognition. You have the personal statement of another brother demonstrating the same bias.

*I think we all mean this in the Masonic sense, not as in the sense of departing this earth!

 

[Dontrell Stroman]

Yes it's racism in both sides, but I'm not speaking for masonry as a whole. But I won't deny the fact that there are some GLS on both sides that don't won't change, but I would like to know why. The excuse we want to preserve our lineage and history is a cover up for some masons. It's like I stated before, no one is trying to take any ones history. I would just like to see both GL treat each other as a brother, like we should.

 

[Levelhead]

Ill say this, if i see another mason giving the GHSOD i will come to his relief no matter what anyone says, black, white, green, brown .

If i were to be in a dark room and i shook your hand and i felt the grip, your my brother!

Maybee both grand lodges need to be in a pitch dark room and meet and have discussions. Then turn the lights on.




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[Dontrell Stroman]

Ha ha. That would be a moment to remember, but the sad thing is I've seen masons black and white look at each other and turn their head. That's not brotherly love to me

 

[Levelhead]

Im in a lodge of old men and good ol boys in a small farm town in the south. They dont speak as bad as you would think. They are just strict on following their obligations.


Sent from Mossy Oak Swamp Bottom.

 

[Dontrell Stroman]

Yes I understand that, but if Prince Hall is regular then how would that be violating the ob.

 

[Levelhead]

I guess prince hall not being recognized. Pretty much. Guess it would fall under clandestine (to them)


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[Dontrell Stroman]

Someone explain the difference between regular and recognized ? Because I'm confused with the content people use the words on the forum

 

[BroBook]

I'll take a stab,regular means that the lodge is properly chartered or has a dispensation and they are doing the work according to establish customs ( yea I know), i.e. Males only, great lights, ect... Recognized means just that, this was addressed on another thread I can't remember where, by one the mainstream brothers, they did it better!!!

 

[Bill Lins]

Thats why we don't recognize prince hall

Who is "we"?

 

[BroBook]

As far as clandestine goes, someone said it is whatever your Grand lodge says it is. That's why it's so important to define terms like masonic conversation, but on the real if we really want change we must do it though proper channels.

 

[BroBook]

Who is "we"?

I wondered the same thing he means FLORIDA, I think .

 

[Bill Lins]

As I was recently (within the last year) an EA & FC in Texas, I am not aware of any dues cards until after you are raised.

Bro. Richard, you should have been given a buff-colored card signifying your status as an EA upon your initiation. When you were passed, your Secretary should have crossed out "EA" and circled "FC" on the same card. Once you have been raised, Grand Lodge issues a blue "dues" card.

 

[Levelhead]

Regular lodge chartered under the GLOF empowering them to work.


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[Ripcord22A]

Regular is a lodge that can trace its history back to one of the original GLs that formed the UGLE(or african 459) AND follows the established customs as BroBook stated. Recognized is exactly what brobook said..that ur GL recognizes said GL as being regular. Now clandestine is a lodge that has no regular lineage. Meaning lodges like John G Jones lodegs. However a lodge can be regular and not recognized such as a lodge that has their charter revoked from its gl....if they contined to work they are still regular but are clandestine untill such time they have their charter reinstated but if they continue to work that probably wont ever happen....irregular lodges are those that dont follow established customs..such as co-masonry lodges....

 

[Brother JC]

All I know is that I am glad that every GL I am or have been a member of is in fraternal relations with its PHA counterpart, and my lodges all have Brethren from all races and religions. Just makes sense to me.

 

[BroBook]

Regular lodge chartered under the uglof empowering them to work.


Sent from Mossy Oak Swamp Bottom.

What does the u stand for is that typo?

 

[Bill Lins]

"uglof"?

 

[Glen Cook]

The CGMNA standards are here. http://www.recognitioncommission.org/publish/2004/06/10/the-standards-of-recognition/

The GL does not need trace its lineage to England.

Some GLs treat "unrecognized" and clandestine as the same. Masonic jurisprudence is a bit sloppy in this regard.

 

[Glen Cook]

"uglof"?

I suspect Union Grand Lodge Of Flrida.