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Way of eating lifestyles

Lowcarbjc

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Not a masonic topic at all.

As my profile name indicates, I'm following a low carb (LCHF) way of eating. Interested to know (without starting some debate of which is best or a fad etc lol), if there are other people on here also following some specific way of eating or diet plan and your personal experience with it.


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crono782

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I did paleo for a while. I felt great, but it was soooo hard to keep it up! I like to eat out and it's near impossible on that diet.


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dfreybur

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I am inconsistent about low carbing. I started Atkins in 1999 and it cured me of indigestion, migraines, you name it. I am no longer consistent about staying low carb so I've gained the loss back but I stay careful enough that the only time I get indigestion is when I chose to do it on purpose. Not getting migraines was a claim I read in the book and didn't believe but here I am 14 years later and I've had one since in a month of ridiculous work pressure and abysmal eating.
 

jvarnell

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I believe that there is no bad food but food needs to be eaten in moderation. I think the food pyramid should be a cylinder. If you eat to much of anything and not a balance there are consequences to your actions . Fat, Diabetes, Cancer and others. if you stop eating something it is just as bad because you don't get the nutrition your body needs.
 

widows son

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Bro Varnell what is you take on foods that would fall under the category of junk food then? Every doctor, or "nutritionist" will tell you these foods are not good for you at all. As a Chef I've made many deserts and breads from scratch, and the amount of gluten, sugar and cholesterol that go in these is mind boggling. Even though, when you make these foods, you make enough for 12 or 24, but if you do the math and break it down its still quite unhealthy. Most of the time the amount of sugar, eggs, flour and other ingredients are use to get a desired texture, not just flavor. For example, beating egg whites with A LOT of sugar gets you a meringue that is very stiff, and wouldn't be if that amount of sugar wasn't in it. Also, most deserts that are homemade have a lot less preservatives and artificial ingredients in them. Store bought sweets and other products that would be deemed junk food, have the preservatives and artificial ingredients in them. And we know that preservatives and artificial ingredients can lead to health problems, including degenerative diseases. In the end though, everyone will still eat what they want, but how true is the statement, "you are what you eat?"
 

jvarnell

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Bro Varnell what is you take on foods that would fall under the category of junk food then? Every doctor, or "nutritionist" will tell you these foods are not good for you at all. As a Chef I've made many deserts and breads from scratch, and the amount of gluten, sugar and cholesterol that go in these is mind boggling. Even though, when you make these foods, you make enough for 12 or 24, but if you do the math and break it down its still quite unhealthy. Most of the time the amount of sugar, eggs, flour and other ingredients are use to get a desired texture, not just flavor. For example, beating egg whites with A LOT of sugar gets you a meringue that is very stiff, and wouldn't be if that amount of sugar wasn't in it. Also, most deserts that are homemade have a lot less preservatives and artificial ingredients in them. Store bought sweets and other products that would be deemed junk food, have the preservatives and artificial ingredients in them. And we know that preservatives and artificial ingredients can lead to health problems, including degenerative diseases. In the end though, everyone will still eat what they want, but how true is the statement, "you are what you eat?"

What is junk food it is food that is labeled that because of an opinion.

Cholesterol: Your body makes it from the carbs if there is not enough in your intake. It is needed for your brain functions and your body only processes about 10% of your Cholesterol. Look at research from the Mayo Clinic and Johns Hopkins.

Sugar: Your body processes it in the volume you take in as if you are eating fruit. The only problem with refined sugar is to much intake. It is natural it is from a plant but just concentrated.

Gluten: Gluten is a protein that is in a lot of things for some reason the type from wheat gluten but not the gluten of other grains. This was found when the research was done on celiac disease.

If someone cooks some beef at home and uses bread they made, tomatoes, onions and lettuce it is said to good an natural but if the same hamburger is made at Wendy's it is bad. This is because the so-called progressives don't like capitalism and you to think for your self's.

Look at the history and research why Dr. Kellogg made all grain cereal and thought it was best to be a vegetarian. He was a seventh-day Adventist that saw people that did not eat meat and ate grain were dossal and did not want sex as much. Sex was bad to them and grains have the most estrogen of any of our foods. He wrote that the way to peace for the US was to make everyone think his diet was best for us.

If you break it down nothing is bad for us in moderation unless it is a true toxin and then it is only the amount. You can believe this or not but if you think about it and read I believe you will come to the same conclusions. All the nutritionist work is not bad but look at what they used for the inputs for the testing and studies they have done. I think they are about 80% accurate. They always look at the outcome and only treat the symptoms and not look for the cause.
 

robert leachman

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Grease, Salt, Caffeine, and Sugar are the four basic food groups!

I usually feel better when my wife is cooking low carb.


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BryanMaloney

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I adhere to an extreme and freaky diet that would never be approved of by modern American society. It is under the arcane and occult name of "sensible eating". No "principle" or "path" or "way", just not too much of a variety of things. The standard American diet is a mess, I'll agree, but the answer to this diet of utter excess and dysbalance (it's not "out of balance", it has a bad balance) is not an extreme in any "opposite" direction. Why does "low carb" look like it works? Because the standard diet has a severe excess of refined carbohydrates (both sugars and starch) and a severe shortage of the various "buffer" components in plant foods (aka everything that isn't sugars and starch). Bread isn't the demon, it's eating a half loaf of white bread at a sitting (or an equivalent in potato chips, white rice, etc.) The whole "paleo" schtick is just another excess reactionary diet.

Yes, some food could be legitimately called "junk food", just like sitcoms could be called "junk TV" (eclairs or potato chips are never actually healthy, no matter how nicely made, merely somewhat less unhealthy), so DON'T LET IT BE A BIG PART OF YOUR DIET! Puritanism is vile, including dietary puritanism.

Unless someone is only willing to watch documentaries and read "uplifting" or "enlightening" books, only indulge in "edifying" conversation (no jokes), etc., why be puritanical and fanatic about food?

Finally, regarding the Wendy's hamburger: It IS different from the one I make at home. It obviously has more grease/fat and a lot more salt. I can taste the salt difference and see, feel, and taste the grease difference. I still eat Wendy's hamburgers, just not that often.
 

otherstar

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If someone cooks some beef at home and uses bread they made, tomatoes, onions and lettuce it is said to good an natural but if the same hamburger is made at Wendy's it is bad. This is because the so-called progressives don't like capitalism and you to think for your self's.

[video=youtube;pfdg4ymCiT8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfdg4ymCiT8[/video]

I know this isn't a Wendy's hamburger, but can you sit there and seriously tell me that a hamburger that is this well preserved (because it is LOADED with preservatives and artificial ingredients) is good for you when it's fresh???
 

dfreybur

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I believe that there is no bad food but food needs to be eaten in moderation.

The idea that there are no bad foods is incorrect and very harmful to the growing population of obese people. There are types of food that are only eaten by humans for economic or historical reasons that are not beneficial to us.

Dairy is harmful to many humans. Lactose tolerance has only been breed into under half of the total world population so far. Yogurt, cheese and other processed dairy foods convert lactose to lactic acid to get around this digestion problem. Allergies and intolerances remain common in the population. Each mammal species is evolved (call it designed if you like) to have its own type of milk and only until weaning. Humans eat the milk of other species and after weaning and there are allergies and intolerances as a result. Some children need special formulas when not breast fed. The fact that indigestion pills are the most common prescription shows that most of the population ignore the fact that indigestion is caused by food that should not have been eaten so they take pills instead.

Grain more than a few servings *per year* was never a part of the human diet until the neolithic revolution. Have you ever noticed the problem with studies that claim that whole grains are beneficial? Those studies compare whole grains against junk refined grains not whole grains against veggies. That means their conclusions are invalid. So what that oatmeal is not as harmful as captain crunch? When humans started eating a lot of grain our teeth started rotting. For any food that should be limited to a few servings per year to not give ill effects it makes no sense to call it other than harmful. And that ignores the 1% of the population who have Crones or Celiac and the about 10% who have milder intolerances and often have no idea the grain is the cause of their chronic indigestion.

Unless you climbed the tree and suffered the bee stings the idea that sugar is not harmful makes no sense. Refined sugar and refined flour triggered the obesity epidemic when combined with the irrational push for hunger triggering low fat.

Soy and other legumes. There are far more intolerance issues than most realize. And yet since I've most to Texas the beans have batted 1000. Even the worse beans I've had in Texas would be the best in the county in many other geographies. Tasting good does *not* equal healthy.

My list hasn't even made it to fake food in a box or sealed plastic yet ...
 

widows son

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These are all great answers. I enjoy seeing the different view points. But what about GMO foods and hormone injected meats? Even if you are making it yourself, the genetics of the organisms have been altered. Would they be good for you?
 

BryanMaloney

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[video=youtube;pfdg4ymCiT8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfdg4ymCiT8[/video]

I know this isn't a Wendy's hamburger, but can you sit there and seriously tell me that a hamburger that is this well preserved (because it is LOADED with preservatives and artificial ingredients) is good for you when it's fresh???

Please show the specific chemical analyses the demonstrate that hamburger being "LOADED with preservatives and artificial ingredients" instead of merely very salty and allowed to DRY OUT. People in this day and age are remarkably gullible and ignorant. They have forgotten, as a mob, that a great way to preserve food is to 1) salt it, 2) dry it.

If bread is not kept moist, IT WILL NOT MOLD! Even the most 100% "natural" of bread WILL NOT MOLD if it is allowed to dry out.
If meat is salty, initially sterilized (brief hint: COOKING CAN STERILIZE THINGS), and then allowed to dry out, IT WILL NOT ROT!

This used to be quite well known, but now people run around like freshly-decapitated chickens, making up all kinds of silly nonsense, instead of referring to already well-established knowledge.


http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives...f-the-12-year-old-burger-testing-results.html
 

Lowcarbjc

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Some real cool answers, great to see people are questioning 'conventional wisdom' thank you all.


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Tx4ever

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While playing football in the 80's we were given salt tabs by the dozen, Now bad, Coffee good, now bad ,now good again, Wine Bad, now good, I don't know what to believe anymore, and really don't trust most diet studies. I just try and eat smaller amounts because I know I will never be able to substain a diet of food I don't really like to eat.
 

Lowcarbjc

Registered User
I believe one should find a way of eating that you like, read the book, do it exactly as the author says and then stick with it for the rest of your life. That's one thing I like about LCHF it can be done by all tastes and likes, even vegans / vegetarians can follow it, although the media makes it out to be a egg and bacon lifestyle, which it most definitely is not.


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jamestprice

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I eat sandwiches and subway. I work 10 to 12 and can't afford and don't want to eat fastfood everyday. And when I'm lucky enough to get off work before 8pm I will run around a fitness trail near my appartments. It is 2.2 miles I was 255 pounds and a month later I am 240 I feel great and running is now enjoyable insted of hard

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dfreybur

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These are all great answers. I enjoy seeing the different view points. But what about GMO foods and hormone injected meats? Even if you are making it yourself, the genetics of the organisms have been altered. Would they be good for you?

It's easy to have a knee jerk reaction that engineered is bad, but that's like saying bridges are bad because they are engineered so we should all swim across rivers. I have already posted about allergies from foreign proteins - Genetic engineering in its current form inserts DNA into the plant so they make different proteins. Thus to me the question becomes what proteins? If they are proteins from plants and animals I already eat then they aren't foreign and I see the objections as uninformed. But plants are being made to create more chemicals than just proteins from other plants and animals I already eat and that does bring up allergy and intolerance potential.
 

jvarnell

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Please show the specific chemical analyses the demonstrate that hamburger being "LOADED with preservatives and artificial ingredients" instead of merely very salty and allowed to DRY OUT. People in this day and age are remarkably gullible and ignorant. They have forgotten, as a mob, that a great way to preserve food is to 1) salt it, 2) dry it.

If bread is not kept moist, IT WILL NOT MOLD! Even the most 100% "natural" of bread WILL NOT MOLD if it is allowed to dry out.
If meat is salty, initially sterilized (brief hint: COOKING CAN STERILIZE THINGS), and then allowed to dry out, IT WILL NOT ROT!

This used to be quite well known, but now people run around like freshly-decapitated chickens, making up all kinds of silly nonsense, instead of referring to already well-established knowledge.


http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives...f-the-12-year-old-burger-testing-results.html
You have said just what I would have. This just show how propaganda works.
 
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