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Dontrell Stroman

Premium Member
I disagree- a situation can become dire. Better to come to another's aid before things go that far south.
I don't think we are in disagreeance. I'm stating help a brother if he says he's in distress. Some are saying they have to be in imminent danger before they can use the sign.
 

Dontrell Stroman

Premium Member
In my own words, if a Brother is in a bind, I don't have a problem with him letting me know- it doesn't have to be a matter of life or death. In MaineMason's example, he was in a bind that he couldn't resolve by himself and the situation could have become much worse if left untended.
In 100% agreeance.
 

Ripcord22A

Site Benefactor
I'm not going to quote Minnesota ritual on this, but suffice it to say that it requires a pretty dire situation. A broken down car doesn't qualify.
What about a broken down car innthe middle of nowhere and ur cell is dead, and no vehicles have come by for hours/ or havent stopped due to the remoteness?
 

Brother JC

Moderating Staff
Staff Member
Being in distress or imminent danger is rather subjective and personal. Sitting in the comfort of your home it's easy to say "that doesn't qualify," but when you are actually in the situation you might feel differently.
As with so many other things in our Craft the variations between jurisdictions leaves a lot of room for interpretation.
 

Dontrell Stroman

Premium Member
Being in distress or imminent danger is rather subjective and personal. Sitting in the comfort of your home it's easy to say "that doesn't qualify," but when you are actually in the situation you might feel differently.
As with so many other things in our Craft the variations between jurisdictions leaves a lot of room for interpretation.
That's what I was getting at brother
 

dfreybur

Premium Member
I'm not going to quote Minnesota ritual on this, but suffice it to say that it requires a pretty dire situation. A broken down car doesn't qualify.

The one example where I know the brother who used the words that go with the sign, his car was broken down on a railroad track crossing. He called some local brothers and got the car pushed off before the next train came by. He was in real distress but not in immanent danger as he was not pinned inside the car. Once off the tracks, it was his task to call for a tow but at that point he it was no longer urgent.

I'm not sure I'd use the words in that situation. I'd probably dial to order a tow truck and then call the local police to inform them and ask them if I need to do anything else.
 

Warrior1256

Site Benefactor
Then when are you suppose to use it ?
As far as I'm concerned whenever that you need help.
Indeed. Distress is distress in my opinion.
Same here.
In my own words, if a Brother is in a bind, I don't have a problem with him letting me know- it doesn't have to be a matter of life or death. In MaineMason's example, he was in a bind that he couldn't resolve by himself and the situation could have become much worse if left untended.
Agreed!
 

Bloke

Premium Member
I'm not keen talking signs but a lot of this would vary on the words in your ritual: here it's quite wide but intent is clear, seek help when in serious trouble, which might be a broken down car, but the general culture around actual "secrets" would tell you much about the man using it, or his jurisdiction, if he used what we're talking about because he was slightly inconvenienced.
 

Jason Bryce

Registered User
That's a great idea.

How about traveling from country to country? Anyone done that?

Thoughts? Experiences?



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I travelled to the Bahamas a few years ago. I checked with my GL first to make sure the lodge was recognized. My GL sent a letter to me to bring.

One of the greatest experiences ever!
 
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